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The Lord's Table, the Lord's Supper
and the Service of God
– J. N. Darby, F. E. Raven, C. A. Coates, J. Taylor

 
Introduction
J. N. Darby:
Reply to some Questions
on the Lord's Supper
F. E. Raven:
1 The Lord's Table and the
Lord's Supper in connection
with the Assembly
2 The Lord's Table
and Supper

3 The Lord's Supper
C. A. Coates:
• Notes of Readings on
the Lord's Supper
1 1 Corinthians 1, 2
2 1 Corinthians 3, 5
3 1 Corinthians 10
Mark 14, Matthew 26
5 Matthew 26 continued
6 1 Corinthians 11
7 John 12
8 John 13, 14
9 Hebrews 2
J. Taylor:
• The Service of God and
the Lord's Supper
1 1 Corinthians 11, 12
2 2 Corinthians 3
3 John 4
 



INTRODUCTION

While the Lord's Table, the Lord's Supper and the Service of God may well be treated as separate matters, they are intimately related and are therefore presented together on this extended page –

An increased and refined understanding of the title subjects will be observed in the successive ministries.

G.A.R.

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EXTRACT  FROM  A  LETTER,
IN  REPLY  TO  SOME  QUESTIONS
ON  THE  LORD's  SUPPER
Collected Writings of J. N. Darby, 20: 282-287
Date Unknown

J. N. Darby, 1800-82

I believe that the bread remains simply and absolutely bread, and the wine, wine – that, physically, there is no change whatever in the elements.

There is more than this in the supper of our Lord, because the Lord is really present with us in it, by the Spirit, according to the intention of the institution; and this is very precious.

The verses of this chapter, however, which speak of eating His flesh and drinking His blood, do not speak at all of the Lord's supper, but of Christ:

The supper presents Christ in only one of these conditions but in that which is, so to speak, central: it presents us a dead Christ; but this foundation of all this precious truth, which could be a motive even for the Father Himself to love Christ –

And see where these poor Roman Catholics – and I love them much – have been brought, by their material explanation of this precious institution. They wish it should be taken according to the letter – "the letter killeth" – so they take away, in the literal sense, the blood; they do not drink the cup.

It is the same thing in John 6 as in John 3, where we are said to be born of water. If that is applied to baptism, then we are born of God by the water.

Now do we by this diminish the importance or the sweetness of this institution? Quite the contrary; we hinder the materializing it, and we insist that the spiritual realization or that which it represents be in the heart, instead of that which is called an opus operatum, which is purely material.

It is most important to understand that it is a dead Christ, who in this state exists no longer, because we cannot have any relation with a Christ living on the earth.

Thus, then, in John 6: 53, the Lord lays down, as a necessary condition of life, the eating of His flesh and the drinking of His blood – receiving Him in His death.

Why then is it said, "They discern not the [Lord's] body"? What body? His dead body. A perfect love, His accomplished work, an obedience which was arrested by no difficulty, presents itself to our eyes! Is there anything else there but a dead body? … If so, I know not where I am, nor what the supper means.

I discern then the body of the Lord, but the body of the Lord given – His blood shed – His death!

I doubt if there is any one in the world who enjoys the Lord's supper more than I do – though I doubt not that there is with many more piety; but that which makes me enjoy it is that it presents to me the body and blood of my Saviour dead, and consequently a perfect love and a perfect work.

May God give us to discern yet more the body of Jesus – to eat His flesh and to realize His death more! Yes! this death is precious. It meets us in our need just as we are, and it delivers us from it by introducing us there, where He is, in the power of a new life which by His death knows not the old.

I have written you at much length. I could willingly enlarge on this subject for, instead of thinking lightly of the supper of the Lord, it is of all institutions the most precious to me; only to be so it must be a dead Saviour that is presented to me in it. I am living with Him now in heaven.

There is another aspect – the unity of the body – which I have not touched on, though it be a precious side of the truth of this institution of the Lord; but it is outside your question. I hope you may, at least, apprehend the ground of my thought, though I write in great haste.

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THE  LORD's  TABLE
AND  THE  LORD's  SUPPER
IN  CONNECTION  WITH  THE  ASSEMBLY
1 Corinthians 10: 17-23; 11: 20-26
Ministry by F. E. Raven, 13: 236-44
Place and Date Unknown

F. E. Raven, 1837-1903

F.E.R. Before the apostle came to this point, he had to deal with a certain sluggishness of conscience in the assembly.

Ques. Do you refer to chapter 5?

F.E.R. Yes. He had to awaken the assembly conscience.

Ques. What do you mean by the assembly conscience?

F.E.R. It is difficult to define. It was the conscience of the assembly – not simply of the individual. It was this which had to be awakened.

Ques. Did the apostle first approach the individual or the assembly conscience?

F.E.R. The assembly conscience, I think.

Ques. "I hear that there be divisions among you". Is that it?

F.E.R. Yes. There is a certain conscience in a collective body, such as the House of Commons. There was a something which would affect them collectively.

Ques. Are sisters responsible as well as brothers?

F.E.R. I do not think it is a question of that here, but of the assembly conscience.

Rem. "All the congregation of Israel stoned him with stones", Numbers 15: 36; Joshua 7: 25.

F.E.R. Yes; you get the idea in Israel of collective responsibility in all of them casting stones at the offender. I think the apostle in 1 Corinthians 5, intended to appeal, not to individuals, but to the assembly as a whole.

Ques. The constitution of the assembly was involved?

F.E.R. I think so. There is a danger of a kind of management instead of a collective conscience.

Rem. Trying to set things to rights.

F.E.R. Yes – with the best intentions.

Rem. It affected the whole company, not only the elders.

F.E.R. Yes, it is the assembly as a whole – the assembly has to take certain things to heart.

Rem. It is easy to be understood, as in the case of a family. If there were some sorrow or trial, you would expect the family to take it up.

F.E.R. There were many things among them that were not according to the apostle's mind.

Rem. I think you were going to speak of the steps that led up to this chapter. You were speaking of a sluggish conscience. How would you seek to awaken it?

F.E.R. The very existence of the assembly as such was at issue. He brings in the Lord's table, chapter 10, to enforce separation.

Ques. Was it for instruction or correction?

F.E.R. For correction, I think – to insist upon the obligations of fellowship. There must be certain obligations attaching to fellowship.

Rem. The bond of partnership?

F.E.R. Quite so. It is not here a question of what is within. Chapter 5 takes up that. They are exhorted to flee from idolatry.

Ques. It compromised fellowship?

F.E.R. Quite so. They appeared to be tampering with it. The fellowship of Christ's death is exclusive of every other fellowship. Chapter 10 is separation from what was without.

Ques. How does that affect us today?

F.E.R. We must take care that we are apart from every other fellowship. I could not understand a brother being a "freemason" or an "oddfellow".

Rem. We express identification with His death.

F.E.R. I think so. The expression of it is in the Lord's supper. The point is that it is exclusive of every other fellowship.

Rem. The obligations of fellowship come before the privileges.

F.E.R. I think so. You have to recognise the obligations, and not get entangled with any other fellowship.

Ques. What would you say to a partnership with a man of the world?

F.E.R. That is of a business nature. I meant what was of a religious character.

Ques. Are partnerships according to God?

F.E.R. I do not think this scripture refers to that.

Rem. I meant in reference to what you said about sluggishness of conscience.

F.E.R. But the sluggish conscience I referred to is in regard to the assembly.

Ques. What do you think about religious associations, many of which exist around us?

F.E.R. I think that all associations or fellowships of that kind are inconsistent with the fellowship of Christ's death. They have the improvement of society before them. They are useful movements in the world, but they are not consistent with the death of Christ.

Ques. In what way are they inconsistent?

F.E.R. In the fellowship of the death of Christ you have passed out of the world.

Rem. And though they are religious in character, they are part of the world.

F.E.R. I think so. I do not depreciate them as movements in the world, but they are not consistent with Christ's death. They are intended for the improvement of man as such.

Rem. Divine fellowship is ignored.

F.E.R. Quite so.

Ques. Do not fellowships of that kind tend to sluggishness of conscience, if gone on with?

F.E.R. Quite so; it identifies the assembly with things that compromise the assembly.

Rem. This is not the exclusiveness of "brethren", but the exclusiveness of christianity.

F.E.R. Nothing can be more exclusive than the death of Christ. I think people ought to lay these things to heart. They ought to be concerned as to whether the things they are identified with are suitable to the death of Christ.

Rem. It is our united responsibility as to separation from what is around us.

Ques. How would young people coming amongst us be led to apprehend this?

F.E.R. If they come amongst us, bring them under good instruction, and if they are true, they will come in sensibly into it.

Ques. Are we to consider the company as having passed out of this order of things?

F.E.R. We are identified with His death, and we must be consistent with it. Fellowship with Christ is a reality.

Ques. Would not partnership with an unconverted man compromise fellowship?

F.E.R. I think you must distinguish between what is business and what is of a wider character. I must say I should be sorry to be in partnership with an unconverted man, but I think it is more of a religious character here.

Ques. In chapter 5 did not the man compromise the company?

F.E.R. He compromised the very existence of the company as well as the company itself. People ought to lay it to heart that it is the fellowship of Christ's death.

Rem. This chapter is christian versus un-christian fellowship.

F.E.R. Quite so. The point is to be clear of all other fellowships.

Ques. Could there be the fellowship of the "table of demons" today?

F.E.R. The way many people go on shews that they recognise the god and prince of this world. They give a certain place to Satan. That is the subtle idolatry of the present day.

Rem. I have known many who have hesitated about coming into fellowship, knowing the demand it made upon them.

Rem. Responsibility rests upon us to instruct them.

F.E.R. I would like to instruct them by being a good example. If every one here were inclined to set a good example, that would be instructing well. The best help you can afford is to set a good example.

Rem. And when they do come in, they find there is a good example for them.

F.E.R. Quite so; that is just it.

Rem. It is really a matter of affection. You only accept fellowship as you are under the control of the love of Christ.

Ques. Would you exclude young converts?

F.E.R. Oh no; I do not think so at all.

Rem. When they come, they should find the example of real separation in those who are already inside.

F.E.R. Many do not find things as they expected, when once they are inside.

Rem. It is not the young converts that do harm, but the old ones who are not going on who do the harm.

F.E.R. To a large extent. The Bridegroom is absent, and it is a time of fasting, as the Lord said.

Ques. What does "fasting" mean?

F.E.R. Abstaining from many things to which one might be entitled, but which are unsuitable in the absence of the Bridegroom.

Rem. We get it in verse 23 of this chapter.

F.E.R. Quite so. You measure all things by the fact of Christ's death. If you accept that, you get the comfort of all that follows in the next chapters.

Ques. Where do you get the Head in chapter 11?

F.E.R. It is the subject of the entire chapter.

Ques. Is fellowship recognising the Head or the company first?

F.E.R. Recognising Christ as Head. Christ takes the place of pre-eminence in love.

Ques. Why is there no evangelist in chapter 12?

F.E.R. It is all for the inside; the evangelist is for outside – the way in which God approaches man.

Ques. Is there any idea of breaking bread privately?

F.E.R. The Lord's supper is bound up with the assembly.

Ques. What do you understand by "breaking bread from house to house" in Acts 2?

F.E.R. At home – they were in a transitional state, they had no settled place.

Ques. Can there be breaking of bread for a time, and then cease?

F.E.R. I do not know. It is very difficult to settle all points. I want all of us to get the great spiritual idea of these things, to see what Christ is to the assembly, and what the assembly is to Christ.

Rem. It was, "This do in remembrance of me".

F.E.R. The Lord's supper was never really celebrated except in the presence of the Lord. It was done in the Lord's presence. You have a living Christ before you, and He calls to mind how He went into death.

Rem. It is a great thing to the Lord – speaking reverently.

F.E.R. It is a great thing to take the bread and wine in His own presence.

Rem. A present Christ leads us back to all that has been done.

F.E.R. Exactly so – that is it exactly.

Rem. If we realised His presence more, we should understand it better.

F.E.R. I think so.

Rem. The Lord meets us there, and we meet Him there.

Ques. What would characterise a meeting for the breaking of bread?

F.E.R. It is the assembly, the Lord is in the midst, directing, ordering, and controlling every affection.

Rem. Mr. Darby said, when some one asked him that question, that it was characterised by simplicity.

F.E.R. Yes, but you want something more than simplicity.

Rem. And you soon find out if people really are in the presence of the Lord.

F.E.R. I think you get the present application of it in the hymn that says: –

Rem. It leads to worship.

F.E.R. Yes, I think so.

Ques. What is worship?

F.E.R. It is one of those things it is next to impossible to define … The idea to me is, you get back to the secrets of the heart of God, and the spring of His ways.

Ques. What is "conformed to the glory"?

F.E.R. You cannot be in the presence of glory except as conformed to it.

Rem. "Holy and without blame".

Rem. You get morally affected by what God sets forth of Himself.

F.E.R. Exactly. You go right back to the spring of it all.

Ques. Do you think small companies are an advantage?

F.E.R. I think the circumstances were peculiar at that time. You may attenuate meetings too much by breaking them up into small companies. In London, for instance, it would not do to break up the larger meetings, and have breaking of bread at home.

Ques. How can we be assured of the Lord's presence?

F.E.R. If you are in the fellowship of the death of Christ, you become sensitive to the presence of the Lord. There are certain conditions on which Christ will meet us.

Ques. Is ministry admissible in a gathering for the Lord's supper?

F.E.R. Christ may lead to it. You cannot lay down any rule in the face of chapter 14. If you accept the presence of the Head, you leave all direction to the Head.

Ques. To go back for a moment – may I ask one question as to the assembly conscience? Could you say a word as to those who lead in the assembly, in connection with that?

F.E.R. There are leaders who have a kind of responsibility. They would be waiting on the Lord about things, and would put things rightly before the assembly, but they could not act for them.

Ques. "If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God". What does that mean?

F.E.R. Not to speak with levity. A man ought not to minister, or address the saints, unless he had something authoritative from God to say – "that in all things God may be glorified".

Ques. What is the mark of a leader in a day of difficulty?

F.E.R. That he is an example to the flock.

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THE  LORD's  TABLE  AND  SUPPER
1 Corinthians 10 and 1 Corinthians 11
Ministry by F. E. Raven, 11: 10-16 – Belfast, 1898

Ques. Why "flee from idolatry"?

F.E.R. Because of the exclusive character of Christianity. He might as well have told them to flee from Judaism. If they went on with Christianity, they must separate from the things of this world. Idolatry is a much wider thing than we think.

Ques. Why does he use the word "flee"?

F.E.R. Flee is a very strong word, you flee from what you are afraid of.

G.B. The principle would be the same today and you must not tamper with these things; by doing so you involve others. What you do in that way you cannot ignore, because of the effect upon others.

Ques. Suppose you go into Westminster Abbey, would that be bad? Would it involve others?

F.E.R. I will tell you the effect that it would have upon me. It would be that I should think you did not consider the thing so very bad after all.

Rem. Fleeing is our only safety.

F.E.R. Yes, you must not tamper with them.

Ques. What is the meaning of verse 7: "The people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play"?

F.E.R. It is most solemn; it is in the absence of Moses they did this; with us it is the indulgence of ourselves in the absence of Christ, as if it did not matter whether He is absent or not, "They sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play".

Rem. It is a sacramental system without separation; they ruled as kings "without us".

F.E.R. Exactly and in system everything is neutralised because there is no separation.

J.S.A. This separation would lead up to the assembly.

F.E.R. Yes. Chapter 10 is separation; chapter 11 is seclusion.

Ques. What is the Lord's table?

F.E.R. It is the fellowship of the death of Christ morally. The apostle takes up the Supper to set it forth,

Ques. What is an idol?

F.E.R. Anything that usurps the proper place of God in the heart. Children may be: anything may be.

E.H.C. We may say that the normal thought of the Lord's table takes in all Christians.

F.E.R. Yes, it undoubtedly takes in the whole. I never heard of the table when I was in the Church of England, because they had no idea of fellowship.

Ques. Why is the cup prominent in chapter 10?

F.E.R. I do not know unless he takes up the sacrificial order.

Ques. What connection is there between the passover and the Supper?

F.E.R. You should always be keeping the passover – the feast. I am always in the fellowship of His death, but in the fellowship I am bound to regard others. The feast of unleavened bread is always going on for us.

Ques. Was the blood significant of the intensity of their separation?

F.E.R. Yes, he takes them up on a ground with which they were familiar.

E.H.C. Is "we bless" we eulogise?

F.E.R. Blessing the cup is like the Lord's doing it, we all break the bread, it is one act in fellowship.

Ques. The meeting does not begin properly till after the breaking of the bread?

F.E.R. No. I always break the bread and pour out the wine together, for people look upon it as a dual service. You must have the figure of death in their separation.

Ques. You do not look upon the breaking of the bread and the pouring out of the wine as if it were the Lord doing it?

F.E.R. No.

G.B. It is not a ministerial act; one does it as representing the rest.

F.E.R. There is no pre-eminence in the body. In 1 Corinthians 12 the head is not pre-eminent, all the members are inter-dependent.

Ques. If it is all one service why do we have a giving of thanks between the bread and the wine?

F.E.R. I should not like to pass over the word "The cup which we bless".

J.B.D. What is the fellowship of the body of Christ?

F.E.R. You must take it up in connection with His body – death. Verse 17 is the mere fact that by our own showing we are one body and so we partake of one loaf.

Ques. What are the deeds of the partnership?

F.E.R. The bond is the death of Christ. We all form one company by partaking of one loaf – one body. The priests were all of one company, one family by partaking of the one altar.

Ques. Does the loaf represent Christ's own body?

F.E.R. Yes. He says, "This is my body".

Ques. Is the unity – the fellowship – expressed in our each partaking of it?

F.E.R. Yes, by your own act and deed.

W.W. There is a question which it seems to us would involve the fellowship greatly exercising the saints here just now, it is as regards marriage.

F.E.R. Oh! better there were none!

W.W. But this is the difficulty. Suppose someone in fellowship were to marry an unconverted man, would that act involve the fellowship?

F.E.R. Well, it would be a thing done without the fellowship of the saints.

Ques. Should such be put out?

F.E.R. No, but she subjects herself to rebuke because of doing in self-will what she did not do with the fellowship of the saints.

Ques. Who should rebuke her?

F.E.R. Some one with the needed amount of moral power.

J.B. The very naming of it in the meeting would be a rebuke.

Ques. Must the subject of the rebuke be present?

F.E.R. You could not make that compulsory, but I should take good care she would know she had been rebuked.

Ques. As to marriage what do you think about it?

F.E.R. There should be none. It is not the time for it.

To return to our subject, the Supper is intended to call the Lord into presence.

E.H.C. What is the form of the word "remembrance"?

F.E.R. It is Himself who is remembered. He was dead, and is alive again. You call Himself into presence.

Rem. If it is in the breaking of bread He is called into presence, it is a long time in our meeting before that takes place, for it is put off so late.

F.E.R. We do things better in England. You notice how heavy the meeting is when it is deferred, and hymns and prayers take its place.

Ques. When should the box be introduced?

F.E.R. I think immediately after the breaking of bread in order that everything of a formal nature might be done together.

Ques. Would it not be better to have the box at the door going out?

F.E.R. No. I connect it in my mind with what is an expression of fellowship and in going round I would connect it with that part of the meeting which expresses fellowship.

Ques. Why introduce it into the morning meeting at all?

F.E.R. What then would you do? It is a necessity, and a thing which should be done in fellowship and consequently connected with the meeting, which is of that character,

Ques. You say we bring the Lord into presence in partaking of the Supper, does that bring Him into the midst?

F.E.R. No. He touches the affections as you call Him to mind, and gives an impulse to the whole thing. The object of the Supper is to put everything into place.

Ques. Would you pray for the gospel at the end of the meeting?

F.E.R. We find that done because people in fellowship imitate instead of setting an example.

Ques. We need not meditate upon a subject before taking part?

F.E.R. No. We do not go there to speak. J.B.S. used to say he went like a blank sheet of paper.

Ques. What about ministry before the breaking of bread?

F.E.R. You have not given the Lord what is due to Him in the Supper and I think it is very objectionable to read, minister, or do anything of the kind before the breaking of bread has taken place.

Rem. The breaking of bread itself should do that in the soul which reading and ministry, etc., has been resorted to, to effect.

F.E.R. Yes, the Supper has a great effect upon people in quieting them and putting them in touch with the Lord and it would do it at once only that hymns are given out and spoil it.

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THE  LORD's  SUPPER
1 Corinthians 11: 17 - 34
Ministry by F. E. Raven, 20: 176-84 – Calne, 1899

F.E.R. What we call "meetings" is expressed in Scripture by coming together into one place – the assembly [chapter 14] – the whole assembly come together.

Ques. In this chapter is it coming together to break bread?

F.E.R. I do not think so.

Ques. Did their disorderly ways rob it of its own proper import?

F.E.R. I think that is the idea. Verse 20.

Rem. There is a difference between assembly meetings and the assembly come together.

F.E.R. You cannot appoint assembly meetings. The only idea of meeting is the assembly come together.

Ques. With arrangement?

F.E.R. What convenes the assembly is the Supper.

Ques. Is the Supper the outward expression of the oneness of the assembly, and therefore the realisation of it?

F.E.R. I think so: it is the divine institution and becomes the means of bringing together.

Ques. Is it the outward sign of our fellowship?

F.E.R. Yes, it is our fellowship. It is the only assembly meeting except for discipline, but that is not normal. If normal, the one occasion is the Supper.

Ques. Is chapter 14: 23 for breaking bread?

F.E.R. It picks up the subject again from the middle of chapter 11. The assembly is for the Supper, but the Supper is not the end of the meeting.

Ques. Is there an opportunity for ministry after the Supper?

F.E.R. I think so, or for anything to which the Lord might lead.

Ques. At Troas, did the apostle preach before they broke bread?

F.E.R. It is a very difficult matter to tell: the breaking of bread and the meal became mixed up together and it is difficult to distinguish.

Rem. Suppose the company in a place come together for prayer or reading.

F.E.R. That is not the assembly: two or three are free to come together as in Matthew 18 – the assembly is a different thought; you have to give complete place to the head if the assembly comes together.

Ques. Saints might come together without coming in assembly?

F.E.R. I think so. The first principle in coming together in assembly is that the Head directs. I think the Supper brings Him in as Head. You come to Him as Mediator of the new covenant and then He is the Minister.

Ques. Would Matthew 18 include coming together in assembly?

F.E.R. It would hold good for the assembly, but that is not really the point of it. The prominent idea there is the kingdom.

Ques. When gathered in assembly are we not gathered in the name of the Lord?

F.E.R. Yes; but the assembly is more than Matthew 18.

Rem. But Paul had it from the glory.

F.E.R. Yes, but we have to take it up intelligently. To my mind the death of Christ is a common meeting ground for Jew and gentile.

Ques. Would the thought of breaking bread and drinking wine have conveyed what is similar to Jeremiah 16: 7?

F.E.R. Yes. Calling to mind involves that they had been in association with Him which could not have literal application to the gentile. I think He instituted the Supper as that in which they would call Him to mind.

Ques. It brings you to the same point, does it not?

F.E.R. Yes, that is just what it does; we do come to the same point by a different way. His love is here, only His death is the expression of the love that is here, not that was here.

Ques. Is not the Supper meant to call something to our minds?

F.E.R. The Supper comes before us as the great expression of love, the love expressed in death.

Ques. Is it not that in the Supper He presents Himself to us in death?

F.E.R. Yes. Remembrance is bringing the Person before you as you have known Him – calling to mind.

Ques. Then, to the disciples, the Supper would recall the Lord as He had been with them?

F.E.R. Yes, I think so. Every bit of His life of ministry had been of the same character as His death – all was the expression of self-sacrificing love, the great expression of which was His death, and therefore death was the means of remembrance, but all His life had the same character.

Ques. What would you say is the real difference between the apostles and us as to the way of remembrance?

F.E.R. They recalled Him in love as He had been with them, in a way which we cannot literally. The Supper in that sense gave a ground which would be common to Jew and gentile.

Ques. I suppose in the gospel there was the celebration of the passover?

F.E.R. That was a distinct thing in which the gentile had no part. In the early church they kept up the passover as a yearly festival among the gentiles as well as the Jews.

Ques. Have we not been much occupied with His sufferings instead of His death?

F.E.R. It used to be, but not so much now, I think. You cannot go back to what is antecedent to death.

Ques. It is clear you must take up the Supper intelligently not literally. Is it the difference between the portrait of one known and one not known?

F.E.R. It must have had a peculiar force to those who had been in His company but we see the wisdom of giving what was common to Jew and gentile. They knew the love in His life; we begin both together in His death and that is the great point in these chapters.

Rem. It gives the Lord's supper a most important place.

F.E.R. The effect is, it connects you with a living Christ; the very fact of the Supper brings you into the presence of a living Christ. Chapter 11 gives the head; chapter 12 the body and the Spirit.

Ques. In the prayer meeting is not the assembly in entire subjection?

F.E.R. In its true character of the assembly, the Head is there and everything else excluded – no activity of mind; a good thing to get rid of. He directs: the mind is like an eye.

Ques. Was it not by rising that He annulled death?

F.E.R. No, morally by coming into it. Resurrection is the expression of its being done.

Rem. The wonderful thing in grace is that the Creator charged Himself with the responsibility of the created; not man, bearing the responsibilities for men, but God charging Himself with what lay upon man.

F.E.R. Then He had to become a man to do it. Exactly. Death is no trouble for me, for divine love has been into death; no one could be frightened at death if he saw divine love had been into it. "Perfect love casts out fear".

Ques. Is the remembrance a sort of backward movement in our souls?

F.E.R. Not exactly that. The assembly comes together as if never come before – all begins anew. The Lord would have it that way.

Ques. Has there not been the idea that the actual act is the remembrance of Christ?

F.E.R. Yes, but if people knew the force of the word they would not think so. "Calling to mind" has no meaning except as to someone with whom you have been familiar.

Ques. Is it not more the thought of calling Him into presence?

F.E.R. That is what it is practically to us.

Ques. There is a hymn of which one verse begins: "We love Lord Jesus to recall". Hymn 192. Do you think it suitable?

F.E.R. I think that is sentimental, you cannot work yourself up to it. All that is of the Lord's appointment, you can count on the grace of God to give, but if it is after your own fancy, you cannot work yourself up to it.

Rem. The bread of comfort and wine of consolation was understood by the Jews. Jeremiah 16: 7.

F.E.R. A great point gained is that the Supper is introductory – not the end as it used to be.

Rem. I think it is still so with many minds.

F.E.R. I was in hope that things had got a little further. To my mind it is introductory that you may be prepared for the ministry of the sanctuary. It is increasing greatly to my mind.

Ques. Is there any thought in the Supper of our taking our stand with the One the world has rejected?

F.E.R. I think you announce His death – you say, Goodbye to the world; there is an end of everything in His death.

Rem. The holiest does not belong to the wilderness. Ephesians and Colossians are instructions for individual progress, but you want Ephesians and Colossians for the holiest.

F.E.R. The holiest belongs to the land.

Rem. I remember the awful fog we were all in at Witney about a great many things!

F.E.R. The service of God must be, as man supposes, carried out according to man's order. They put up buildings and think they can worship God according to their own fancy, but you must give Christ the place He has been pleased to take.

Ques. Can we enter the holiest except in the assembly?

F.E.R. I think not. You have the priestly company in association with the true Aaron.

Ques. Man may say he will bring the best of everything he has got, but is that according to divine order?

F.E.R. Christ is Minister of the true tabernacle.

Ques. Is it not a very serious matter to give up the breaking of bread?

F.E.R. If things come to that pass that it is necessary, it is a very serious consideration.

Ques. Could individuals in an assembly enter the holiest if the assembly does not?

F.E.R. It must be a question to a large extent of the work of God in individuals. You come together as saints; because a person is not up to the mark you cannot say he must not take part; you have to accept it.

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THE  LORD's  SUPPER: 1 - 9
Notes of Readings on the Lord's Supper, C. A. Coates, Volume 24
– Teignmouth, Lord's Day readings

C. A. Coates (1862-1945)

(1) 1 Corinthians 1: 17-18, 21-24; 2: 1-5

C.A.C. It was thought that in considering together the precious subject of the Lord's supper we should first of all get some idea of the kind of persons who can eat the supper.

Rem. I was wondering whether the two verses in early Acts would give the thought.

C.A.C. Yes, the same character of things evidently took place at Corinth. The testimony corresponded with that rendered by Peter at Jerusalem. His testimony was that God had made "that same Jesus whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ".

Ques. Do you get that in the opening verses in Corinthians? Paul refers a good many times there to "the Lord Jesus Christ".

C.A.C. Yes, it is important to look at these things from the standpoint of divine testimony. It is not a question of our personal experience or needs at all, but it is a question of a Person to whom God has given testimony that He is the anointed One; He is the Christ, God's Anointed. It is the testimony apart from all feeling or experience that I or anybody else may have.

Rem. "According as the testimony of the Christ has been confirmed in you".

C.A.C. He refers to it further on – "I came to you … announcing to you the testimony of God". It is summed up in "Jesus Christ, and him crucified".

Ques. Will you say what the testimony of the Christ involves?

C.A.C. It is most important to understand that. The testimony is that there is such a Person as God's Anointed.

Rem. It was said of Simeon that "it was divinely communicated to him by the Holy Spirit, that he should not see death before he should see the Lord's Christ".

C.A.C. That is the whole thing. Jesus claimed to be the Anointed when He stood up in the synagogue at Nazareth, Luke 4: 18-21, and His whole life was the evidence of the fact. I think Paul gave that evidence at Corinth for he "reasoned" with them. It was a matter of careful proof that Jesus was the Anointed.

Rem. The main theme of the first preaching was that God had made Him "both Lord and Christ".

C.A.C. This lies at the very basis of the formation of the assembly; you have no company to take the supper otherwise. It is all a question of believing God's testimony, and His testimony is Jesus. It clears the ground at once.

Ques. Is there a separating power in it?

C.A.C. Yes, I do not want to go on with anything that God has not anointed. God has shewn me a Man who has been anointed. He stands alone – it carries with it a separating power.

Rem. God has raised Him.

Ques. Why is it that he stresses the crucifixion?

C.A.C. Because the princes of this world had crucified the Lord. The testimony was all there before their eyes. They did not call the blind man of John 9 or Mary Magdalene as witnesses. They did not call any worth hearing.

Rem. It says, "None of the princes of this world knew, for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory".

C.A.C. It shews their blindness. It is just to bring out the utter incapacity of men to receive the testimony of God. So there must he certain persons who are called, and to them Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God, but He is to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness.

Rem. Man after the flesh cannot appreciate Christ.

C.A.C. That is the whole thing, so the belief that Christ is God's Anointed Man really delivers the soul from every other kind of man. That is the kind of man God distinguishes and accredits. A distinct issue was raised that none of us can avoid.

Rem. I was wondering whether it went back to the breakdown in Eden. It is a necessity that One who pleases God should come into evidence, and that is the One to whom God is looking.

C.A.C. Yes, that is it. There is a perfect testimony in that blessed Man to all that God is morally. Does that attract me? Do I believe this testimony? If so, I have finished with the world as a system.

Rem. We see it in the first two Psalms. God can anoint the Man in Psalm 2 who pleases Him in Psalm 1.

C.A.C. Yes. This is the supreme question of all time. There is one Man whom God has signalised and accredited, and every other man is discredited. If persons believe that they are fit for the assembly. It is a question of whether I have believed the testimony. It is what I believe, not a matter of experience or formation.

Ques. When did this anointing take place?

C.A.C. It took place at His baptism, which was the public accrediting of that Man.

Rem. I suppose we need to see the beauty of His deeds and Person and the immediate effect of what the world has done, and these would help us to have done with the world.

C.A.C. So that all things are exposed. The princes of the world are exposed; they crucified Him, they are exposed. How could I go on with politics and such things if I believe that Christ is God's Anointed? The assembly is made up of people who have judged these things.

Rem. It involves His coming into His rights down here.

C.A.C. Yes, it must involve that, because the One whom God has anointed must have the supreme place. God has not adjusted things yet, but when God adjusts everything in the universe He will have that place. What you feel is He ought to fill the scene – the universe. He is capable of filling it, we all ought to have that sense.

Ques. Would you say that if we are in the good of God's testimony, the Lord's pathway traced through this scene has a different bearing altogether?

C.A.C. Yes, and then of course His being crucified brings in another element, because if I accredit the Man whom God has accredited, there is another man who is the direct opposite. That is the best way of learning self. The proper way of learning self is to learn Christ first.

Ques. Will you say why it is the cross here and not the death of Christ?

C.A.C. We learn the necessity to value the cross, because if I really accept Christ as the Anointed of God and contemplate His character in the gospels, I begin to feel I am not like Him.

Rem. "God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ".

C.A.C. It was to mark in the strongest possible way the contrast between those that crucified Him and the place that God has given Him.

We should be reminded of one thing, that faith cannot be maintained in its integrity without the Spirit, and that is why christians today are in such a lamentable state. At some point in their history they have come to this and they have drifted from it. How is it to be maintained? Only by the Holy Spirit.

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(2) 1 Corinthians 3: 16,17; 5: 6-8

We were reading last Lord's Day that these persons who are addressed as the assembly of God in Corinth were persons who had believed the testimony of the Christ – that Jesus is the Christ, that Jesus is God's anointed Man.

Rem. This would be foundational and it would be illustrated in the Ethiopian eunuch who wanted to be baptised. That is, it is soul work.

C.A.C. Yes, he believed the testimony and it was testimony of 'some other man". His question was,

Rem. Last time you referred to the need of the Spirit to support faith.

C.A.C. Well, I think it is important for us to recognise that faith is not sufficient, there must be a divine power to maintain things, and that lies in the Spirit. Many believers begin with faith, but decline because they do not keep company with the Spirit.

Rem. These are such great things and we are so feeble that we need divine power to be maintained in them.

C.A.C. Yes. The thought of being the temple of God would suggest that it is a place where the service of God can go on suitably. That is the thought of the temple. There would be light in the temple.

Ques. When the apostle touches one of these vital points, he says, "Do ye not know?" Why does he say that?

C.A.C. I think it intimates that there may be great realities that we have never recognised. There are christians around who have no thought of the temple.

Rem. That would not hinder liberty.

C.A.C. No, it would create liberty! There is no liberty apart from holiness. We do not want liberty apart from holiness!

Rem. It says, "The temple of God is holy, and such are ye".

C.A.C. If there is a wrong state it can only be put right by the truth. If the testimony of Jesus being God's Anointed is accepted, and the truth of the cross as setting aside every other man, then we come to it that we are the temple of God where He dwells. We have to accept that as a great divine reality.

Ques. Will you please say what you mean by taking off our shoes?

C.A.C. I suppose it intimates to us that we set ourselves aside and any dignity or greatness that might have attached to us and we take the lowest place. The ground is holy. God said to Moses

Rem. It says in Ecclesiastes 5,

C.A.C. Yes, I think that is very helpful in this connection. There is danger of saying too much; we had better say a little that the Spirit of God can sanction rather than a great deal otherwise.

Ques. In what way is the temple looked at here?

C.A.C. I think that it is the place where God is suitably served, but the prominent thought here is holiness, the definite exclusion of what is not holy.

Ques. Would taking off the shoes mean there is no standing for man, but the place is a place of service?

C.A.C. That is very important, so that we serve God in relation to what has come entirely from God.

Rem. Ezekiel was to shew the form of the temple to the house of Israel to make them ashamed.

C.A.C. That is very helpful. We have to bear in mind that we are in the midst of the christian profession, and we have to learn the true character of the temple and service.

The temple of God is a place of light, light is continually shining there. The candlesticks in the temple were bearing light, so light is maintained in the ministry by the Spirit; so that we are instructed priests who know what to do and how to do it.

This subject is further developed in chapter 5 where the saints are spoken of as being unleavened.

Then there is a holy watchfulness to be maintained, for the old leaven is not far from any of us – it is myself – and the danger is that it may leaven the whole lump; so we must deal with it promptly and cast it out.

Crucifixion is a public matter. Everyone can take account of a crucified man as put in the place of curse and dishonour.

The Lord would help us so that we should eat the passover in company with Him, and consequent on that is the keeping of the feast.

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(3) 1 Corinthians 10: 15-22

C.A.C. We were noticing that faith is not sufficient if things are to be maintained. Without the Spirit faith will decline. So the apostle calls attention to the saints that they are the temple of God, and the Spirit of God dwells in them and the temple of God is holy.

In chapter 10 we come to the thought of communion or fellowship. It is the question of the adjustment of our associations.

Rem. There was a young man in Malta who said his reason for coming to the meeting was because he found more of Christ there.

C.A.C. He was an "intelligent man" evidently as wanting more of Christ. Persons like that are suitable material for the assembly, if they want more of Christ they wish to eliminate what is not of Christ; we must begin personally as leaven works inwardly.

We get the truth of associations in chapter 10 before the supper in chapter 11.

The blessing of the cup shews very clearly that we think very highly of it. There is nothing about drinking the cup here; it is blessing it, involving that we look at it. You look at it as a cup of blessing and you bless it. It supposes that all christians do it.

Rem. It is a feast – the feast of unleavened bread.

C.A.C. I am glad you called attention to that. It is not a fast of unleavened bread.

Rem. There are worldly attractions as well as religious associations.

C.A.C. There are all kinds of things to ensnare us, but we shall have fewer desires for them as we come, more and more, into the knowledge of our associations.

Then the other important element of the fellowship is the bread;

The Psalmist goes on to say that his delight was in the saints, speaking of them as

Rem. There is the thought sometimes of doing things as an individual.

C.A.C. There is no ground in Scripture for any believer detaching himself from the company of his brethren.

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(4) Mark 14: 22-26; Matthew 26: 26-30

C.A.C. I wanted to link these Scriptures together. I thought it was perhaps needful that we should consider that aspect of the Lord's supper which stands in more immediate connection with the passover before we go on to the great thought of remembrance, which is specially connected with it for the assembly.

Ques. You think the passover aspect should have its effect on the saints before the remembrance is taken up?

C.A.C. Yes. It would appear that the aspect presented in Mark comes first. That is,

Ques. You suggest that the further thought of eating comes in Matthew?

C.A.C. Yes, the first thought is taking the bread, and the second is eating, which comes out in Matthew.

Rem. "Eating" is not in the text in Mark, it is "take" there.

C.A.C. Yes, the Lord does not refer to eating in Mark, and in connection with this great subject it is necessary that we should go carefully and observingly and not miss any part of the Lord's instruction. In Mark He stresses the point, "Take this". Take is the distinctive word.

Ques. Would it be connected at all with the thought of taking the lamb?

C.A.C. Well, I think there is a suggested connection.

It is important that we should take the bread in the wonderful import which the Lord has connected with it. We are told that,

Ques. What is the difference between giving thanks and blessing?

C.A.C. I think blessing gives the thought of the character which the Lord would attach to the loaf. That is, in blessing He gave the loaf such an import as no other loaf had ever before possessed.

Ques. Would it suggest the Lord taking the body prepared for Him?

C.A.C. No doubt it does suggest that. The fact that He took bread, or the loaf, intimates there is something very tangible which would clearly refer to His having become flesh.

Rem. "Taking" implies a very deliberate action on the part of the Lord, as if designed to bring something before us.

C.A.C. It was to bring the greatest matter before us that ever took place in the universe, or that ever will take place, the most important matter in the whole of eternity. "Now", He says, "I want you to take it with something of that in your soul".

Ques. Would the body imply that these great thoughts have come into its compass?

C.A.C. Yes, there was so much told out in the Lord becoming Man that is available for us to take.

Rem. And "My body" – it is the Person who comes into it, that Person's body.

C.A.C. Yes, and this blessing connects the immensity of all that with the symbol.

Rem. The Hebrew bondman served for six years as coming into this condition, and in the seventh he said, "I will not go out free". I thought it was the deep affection that was at the back of it.

C.A.C. I think that ought to affect us profoundly, and it comes very fittingly in Mark's gospel where He is the great Servant, and where He stresses that He came not to he ministered unto, but to minister.

It appears to me that in blessing, the Lord connects with the simple emblem the thought of all that had come in from God in Himself as in Manhood.

A sister said to me that she could not get as much of Christ as she wanted. That is darkness in the soul, and the Lord saying "Take" is the answer to it.

Ques. Would you connect the Lord's teaching in John 6 with what is now before us?

C.A.C. In John 6 it is the condition He stresses, which has in view the entrance of believers into eternal life.

Ques. Taking is appropriation, then what is the thought of eating?

C.A.C. It is assimilation I should think. We first appropriate, that is we see that divine love invites us to take possession of all that is signified by a divine Person coming into Manhood, but with that – the loaf taken – there is the thought of eating.

Now this truth all underlies the supper. It is not merely coming to break bread week by week, though that is essential. What underlies it is this great reality of taking and eating.

Rem. The body and blood are separated to emphasise the import of each.

C.A.C. Yes, it is how we understand. The question is how much have we eaten? What we have taken of Christ, not all the power of earth and hell can ever take away from us. It becomes part of the fibre of our being, part of myself, and that cannot he taken away.

What is introduced to me objectively, becomes part of me subjectively. We shall not really please the Lord in taking His supper if we do not move on these lines.

The Lord introduces us to the greatness of what is available in Matthew and Mark. The question is, "Is there enough in Christ to change me completely from what I am into what He is?" – "to transform me"

Ques. Would you say that we can break bread and not touch the supper?

C.A.C. That is what they were doing at Corinth, making it part of a common meal. To get away from that we must enter into these spiritual things.

Then there is the eating. The apostle says,

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