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Daniel Jackson

From: Daniel Jackson
danieljATrunbox.com
PO Box 1395, Wall, NJ, 07719, USA
Wed, 15 Dec 2004

Dear brother, Greetings!
To introduce myself, I am a university student in New York and I've been very much interested to read portions of your extensive website.

I first became interested in these Christians through my research into the history relating to Watchman Nee and those believers in China, and later in many other countries, who somehow followed the brethren pattern.

In the very recent past, while living in Europe, my impression of a few brethren assemblies has been somewhat negative, unfortunately, mostly because of the very sectarian way in which they separated themselves from other Christians and made it extremely difficult for others to pursue fellowship with them.

Yours, in the eternal Grace, Daniel Jackson


To: Daniel Jackson
Fri, 17 Dec 2004

Dear Daniel
Welcome to 'My Brethren'. I'm glad you found some items of interest.

I sympathise with you as to the difficulty of finding your way through the sad divisions, having had this experience myself as a young man.

  • At that time an old brother encouraged me with John 7: 17,

    • "If any one desire to practise his will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is of God, or that I speak from myself".

    After receiving your email I spoke with my friend Ralph Gentles of New York who meets with a few there.

    • Ralph would be glad to hear from you and go over your exercises. His email is rgentlesATsanborn.com.

    Please let me know how you get on and, of course, don't hesitate to contact me again.

    In the Lord Jesus, Gordon.


    From: Daniel Jackson
    Fri, 1 Jun, 2007

    Dear brother Gordon,
    Greetings in the Lord.

    I am interested in securing any books of ministry by the late brother Stanley McCallum, but I have had difficulty identifying their existence or availability. Would you be able to provide any information or direct me to some distributor?

    Thank you very much. Your brother, Daniel Jackson.


    To: Daniel Jackson
    Fri, 1 Jun, 2007

    Dear Daniel,
    Good to hear from you again. There are two sources for some of Mr. McCallum's valuable ministry.

    1. Check 'Site News: The KBT Report'. Some of his ministry has been reprinted in the 'Selected Addresses' series (#3 I think)and 'Selected Ministry' series (#4, 5, 6, I think). If you email KBT I'm sure the manager, Malcolm Withell, can let you know which volumes includes some of his ministry.

    2. See 'Site News: Bibles and Books: Stone Publishig Trust'. Email David Mutton and inquire whether they have any used books of S.McC. available.

    Did you ever contact Ralph Gentles in New York?

    In our Lord Jesus, Gordon Rainbow.

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    Malcolm Jackson

    To: Malcolm Jackson
    M_JacksonATukoz85.freeserve.co.uk
    Northampton, UK
    Sun, 10 Jan 1999

    Dear Malcolm,
    Thanks for dropping in. I share your concern as to "the practice of displaying the Lord's interests on a publicly accessed facility" and was hesitant about proceeding. I have tried to meet the matter in two ways:

    1. By making it clear on the home page that the site is really intended for believers in the Lord Jesus – and providing two gospel pages for any who are interested.

    2. By attempting to make a positive presentation of the way God has worked in and through brethren both in their history and ministry. Sadly, of course, certain negative matters cannot be completely avoided.

    I am glad that you have found some of the contents of help and, hopefully, that the presentation did not lower the dignity of spiritual matters to the level of gossip and complaint.

    You are no doubt correct. Those who have gone before could scarcely imagine the things that have happened, the divisions and the dishonour to the Lord's name.

    • We – perhaps I should only speak for myself – who are not front line men have been left the privilege and responsibility to maintain the truth pesonally and, if allowed, in company with others who bear the iniquity before the Lord.

    • Thanks be to God – though the problems seem insurmountable – the divine resources remain unchanged, the Lord on high, the Spirit here, the Scriptures, and the good ministry.

    By the way, for some time I have been compiling a list of names from various older sources, and note a Graham Jackson in Northampton. Are you related?

    I expect to be adding some items this month and hope you will drop in again. Of course, I will always be glad to hear from you and any exercised souls.

    Yours in our Lord, Gordon.


    From: Malcolm Jackson
    Mon, 11 Jan 1999

    Dear Gordon,
    Thank you for your prompt, brotherly reply.

    • Firstly, Graham is my brother (and Stuart, at Peterborough) – both 'levites' years ago in the System.

    • I left at 16 years of age, in Feb. 1961; simply desirous of following the Lord in His footsteps (see Peter). 'This man receiveth sinners and eats with them'.

    • My parents and two brothers remained in. I was allowed to live at home, shut up in one room, until I was 21 years old.

    As to my present position, it is perhaps generally indicated in a paper I prepared for a New Zealand brother in 1993 …

    I am married to an Australian sister (one aunt of hers is married to Gordon Hales!), Ruth nee Johnston. We married late and have 2 sons – Ian 14 yrs and Paul 9 yrs.

    With love in Christ, Malcolm J.

    N.B. Please don't publish anything I send (not that it is worth it!). Note: This refers to an accompanying article, not to the message itself. G.A.R.

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    Pam Copp Jackson

    From: Pam Copp Jackson
    mpjackATattcanada.ca
    Petrolia, Ontario, Canada

    Fri, 24 Aug 2001: This message appeared on another site.
    If anyone remembers me I'd be interested in hearing from them. I left the meeting in Hamilton, Ontario in 1985. My parents were Jack and Ruth Copp.
    I am now married to a farmer and have 3 children.

    To: Pam Copp Jackson
    Sun, 26 Aug 2001

    Dear Pam,
    We just saw your message in Dick Wyman's Guest Book. You will not likely remember us but we certainly remember you and your family.

    • We have some lovely photos of Jack and Ruth, Sandra, Debbie and you on a visit to us in Toronto in December 1967!

    • Betty recalls that Jack lived in Toronto for some time when he first came to Canada.

    • We were often in Hamilton – until we left in 1970 – and knew the brethren there well including your uncle Art Manning and aunt Mary Buchan.

    Many – especially young persons – have suffered and been damaged by wrong teaching and cruel practices by some who claim to be servants of Christ but either do not know the Lord Jesus or, at least, do not understand His grace.

    • We hope that you have been healed spiritually and that you trust in the Lord for your present joy and future salvation – and that your husband and children know this blessing as well.

    With love in Christ, Gordon and Betty Rainbow.


    From: Pam Copp Jackson
    Sun, 26 Aug 2001

    Dear Gordon and Betty,
    It was nice to hear from you and you are right I do not remember you if I were to see you, but your name I recognized. I will just respond to your letter tonight, and another night when it is earlier, I will give you more of a history as to my sisters and relatives.

    I left the brethren in 1985 and have never looked back. I do know that I have found a personal link with God, rather then going to the pb meeting everyday and feeling like sheep!

    • There is not much of a chance to get onto a personal level with God when you are forced into situations that you are not sure why you are doing them, only you know that you were told to, and that was all that mattered!

    • It took a while for me to deal with the many issues that plague me and to this day still feel I have certain insecurities due to being raised in a mind controlling situation.

    My father died of cancer in 1978, I'm not sure whether you knew that or not. It was one of the saddest times of my life, he was a wonderful man, husband and father and I felt honored to have known dad for the 15 years I did.

    Michael and I have been happily married for 12 years and I went on to become a dental hygienist before we started our family. I love staying at home taking care of the children, and also being able to work part-time, for me, the balance works well.

    You don't happen to have a scanner do you? I would love to see some of the pictures if I could.

    • I do not have many pictures of myself at that age (or of the family) and it would be interesting as my children are; Alexandra, 7.5 years old, Brent 6 years old, and our last Curtis who is 3. I know Alexandra is more like my side of the family, but I have a strong feeling that Curtis looks even more like me then she does!

    • Sometimes it is difficult to see that unless you see yourself in pictures at the same age.

    It was great to hear from you and I am thrilled that I put my name into the registry. Please respond back and it is nice to talk to someone that knows my past without having to explain it in detail!

    Take care, Pam (copp) Jackson.


    To: Pam Copp Jackson
    Tue, 28 Aug 2001

    Dear Pam,
    Thanks for your reply and the details as to Michael, yourself and the children. The children are a blessing from God indeed to be cherished.

    Yes, we had heard that the Lord had taken Jack, but as you know information is hard to come by after you have left.

    • We're glad to hear your appreciation of him, which is quite in agreement with our remembrance of him. We wonder about your mother.

    • Sadly the good spiritual influence that parents would have had over their children –as in earlier years –was undermined by those who exalted themselves as leaders, so different from Christ.

    • We're sure that you and your sisters were baptized to the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Spirit in faith by your parents that you would be held for God and come to trust in Christ yourselves.

    • They would have had nothing else in mind but your blessing, and would rejoice – as we do –that you can say "I do know that I have found a personal link with God".

    • For us all that is through the Lord Jesus alone, as He said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father unless by me", John 14: 6.

    No we don't have a scanner but have been considering getting one for use in connection with the web site. Certainly as we are able we will send you copies, knowing how much these can mean not only to you but to your children.

    We're not sure whether you have had opportunity to visit our 'My Brethren' web site but, as we have made contact, will show your name in the Guest Book.

    • We hope you will visit MB as you find time. You'll find a little of our history on the Personal page. Some of the early History and some of the good Ministry should help to gain a proper perspective on what the brethren were like before 1959, in the time when your parents were growing up and earlier.

    • What happened subsequently was a terrible catastrophe that perverted the truth, misrepresented and robbed God, enslaved the brethren and damaged the children. As they grow up it will be important for your children to know something of what their grand parents really believed.

    • You – and so many others – have been misled, and we believe that you have a right to know your true spiritual heritage, not the caricature you had to grow up with.

    • By the way, when you visit MB there is an interesting article that can be reached from the Home Page. It's called So You've left the Jims and it was written some years ago by Laurie Twinam in England.

    Yes, it certainly is good to speak with those that understand our past without all the explanations! Our contact was brief, 34 years ago, and we are of a different generation – the same one as your parents – but we do have much in common. And we appreciate the contact with you very, very, much.

    We're looking forward to hearing from you again as you find time.

    With love in Christ, Gordon and Betty.


    From: Pam Copp Jackson
    Thu, 30 Aug 2001

    Dear Gordon and Betty,
    Thank you for your response. My poor mother (who is a wonderful person) has had a tough life both in her younger years and in her later years. My parents never had a lot of money, but we always had what we needed and there was love and laughter growing up.

    • My parents' house had been pretty much paid for when dad passed away, and so mom worked part-time to help pay bills and I remember going to help her after school and on holidays at her job.

    • We also struggled as we had to have company every other Sunday for the commuting brethren.

    • The work and the travel we did shocks me now as I think back to it all. I really do not remember having much time to be a kid. Well I guess I still did have fun and it seems to have given me a strong and level head on my shoulders.

    I went through some adjustments after I first left, but thankfully through Christ I have been guided by a gentle hand to follow a better path.

    • There is yet still a lot that I need to learn, and issues left over from my past that still surface, but seem to be dealing with well. I guess 21 years of learning one way (and so it seems one way and one way only!!!) that it will take time to work things out, good and bad.

    I have yet to visit your website, but would like to and will do it soon, sounds like it may help a little more in understanding the past.

    • One thing that I am starting to understand is that not everything that I learned growing up with the brethren, was always the right or best thing.

    • When you have been, what I like to refer to as brain-washed, it takes more then overnight to see this!

    I don't know if you knew my father's sister, Betty (Copp) Turner, but she lived in and near Toronto all her married life. I was able to contact her and my father's brother, Steve, a couple years after I left. I have stayed in contact with them and am glad to have some relatives in my life. I also am in contact with some other x-pb's in the Hamilton and Burlington area.

    Yours truly, Pam Jackson.


    To: Pam Copp Jackson
    Fri, 31 Aug 2001

    Dear Pam,
    We appreciate hearing about your mother and sympathize with her and you in all you went through.

    "Brainwashed" is the right term! How good to get free. But we do appreciate your positive attitude. So many are still obsessed with the past and filled with bitterness.

    • We need to have a clear judgment of what was wrong in the past but also to get on with the present and live for Him daily.

    We'll be glad to hear from you after you've had time to explore 'My Brethren'. Hopefully it will answer some questions, but it may raise others. We'll do our best to answer any questions that come up.

    • We think you will find the Mailbox interesting. Despite all that has happened you'll see that there are still believers of other backgrounds out there who are searching and appreciate the earlier ministry among the brethren.

    No, we didn't know that Jack had a sister and brother, but are glad you could make contact. Perhaps we'll meet you face to face some time, if the Lord will.

    With love in Christ, Gordon and Betty.


    To: Pam Copp Jackson
    Mon, 1 May 2006

    Dear Pam,
    It's hard to believe that it's 5 years since our last emails.

    Recently a young friend with a scanner has done some photos for us and we are attaching those we have of you and family – some time in the 1960s – hoping they will be of interest to you and your children.

    With love in our Lord Jesus, Gordon and Betty.


    To: Pam Copp Jackson
    Mon, 1 May 2006

    Dear Gordon,
    Thank you so much for the pictures, they are great! I have forwarded them to my sister Sandy Tickle who is married to Terry Tickle in Rochester, NY. They have been out for at least 12 years. I know she will be pleased to receive them as well.

    It is wonderful to have these pictures and it means a lot to me to have these. I have very few pictures of myself or my family growing up and to be able to show these to my children will be great.

    Hope you folks are keeping well. We are fine and the children are growing up so quickly! Alexandra is now 12 years old, Brent is 10, and Curtis is 8.

    We are keeping very busy between the 2 farms we own, Mike also works full time as an Ironworker, and I work 3-4 days a week as a dental hygienist. I am cutting back to 3 days for now and it will be less in September.

    Take care and thank you again.

    Sincerely, Pam Jackson.

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    Kirsty Jarman

    To: Kirsty Jarman
    kirsty.jarmanATntlworld.com
    Locality Unknown, Scotland
    Sun, 16 Jun 2002

    Dear Kirsty,
    Thank you very much for writing with the interesting details of our family connection. Yes, you are quite welcome to use any of the dates etc. in the 'Memorial'.

    I see you have our email address from Glen. It doesn't appear on the 'My brethren' web site but messages on the Guest Book form on the 'Guests' page come to that address. This is only for initial contacts.

    We hope to write to you again in the next few weeks with some of Betty's impressions of her grandfather and some details on family members which, it is hoped, will be of interest.

    • Yes, we would certainly be glad for any information on the Scottish Steens.

    • We understand Clement came from Greenock. What city do you live in?

    There is some information on us on the Personal page on the web site.

    Yours in our Lord, Gordon and Betty.

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    Grace Jeffrey

    To: Grace Jeffrey
    dagsafamilyATbigpond.com
    Esk, Queensland, Australia
    Sat, 4 May 2002

    Dear Grace,
    Thanks for visiting 'My Brethren'. I hope you found some items of interest and that you will return.

    • Please feel free to share your background and any exercises.

    In the Lord, Gordon.

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    Larry Jensen

    To: Larry Jensen
    larolinaATaol.com
    Wichita, Kansas, USA
    Tue, 30 Apr 2002

    Dear Larry,
    Thanks for visiting 'My Brethren'. I hope you will return and profit from the good ministry.

    I suspect you are inquiring about 'open' assemblies – with which MB has no connections – and so I'm sending this and your inquiry re London to Murray Linton who I believe still lives in London and may be able to give you some information.

    In the Lord, Gordon.

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    Rudi Joas

    From: Rudi Joas
    rudi.joasATcv-dillenburg.de
    Monheim (NRW) Germany
    Sat, 5 Feb 2000

    Dear brethren,
    I spend a lot of time at your site and I really enjoy it.

    • There are so many things to see, to find, to read. I just love the way you are talking about our Lord Jesus.

    I'm 52 years old and belong to a small assembly in Germany.

    • Originally an engineer, the Lord led me out of my interesting occupation into Christian publishing.

    • Our publishing house is closely connected to the so-called brethren movement and we have already published a lot of literature from authors from brethren background, such as William MacDonald, David Long, Gaebelein, etc.

    Your web page is like an oasis where one may find rest. Thank you.

    I wish I had the knowledge to build a web site like this in German.

    May our Lord Jesus bless you and your work abundantly.

    United in His Love and Service, Rudi.


    To: Rudi Joas
    Sat, 05 Feb 2000

    Dear Rudi,
    Thank you for visiting "My Brethren" and your very kind remarks. I'm glad you have found items of interest. The Lord Jesus is precious to me and I am glad to exalt Him.

    Thanks too for sharing a little of your history and exercises. Publishing – books or a web site – is demanding in many ways, but rewarding when you know it benefits other believers. I'm sure you have experienced this.

    Actually, building a web site is not as difficult technically as it may appear.

    • The most demanding part is transcribing suitable articles into computer form.

    • At 52 you are still relatively young compared to my 70 years and, with your background, should not have much trouble with the technical side.

    • If you decide to start a site I would be glad to offer any advice you might like.

    I hope you continue to find blessing on MB and will be glad to hear from you at any time.

    May the Lord bless you. Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.

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    Ian Johns

    From: Ian Johns
    ianrosATbigpond.com
    Adelaide, Australia
    Sun, 24 Sep 2000

    Dear Gordon,
    Firstly, my apoligies for not answering your e-mail earlier this year, but due to a very bad motor vehicle accident recently, my e-mails have been some what neglected.

    Yes, my father is Doug Johns (mother Helen) and they were in Canada many times during the 60's and early 70's.

    • My parents travelled extensively to the US, Canada, England, Europe, South Africa, etc. every year from about 1959 to 1973 I think.

    My parents were kicked out of the brethren here in Adelaide in about 1975 I think, in one of the usual power struggles.

    • They still, I believe, live their lives pretty much the same as the brethren's teachings, however do not belong to any church or brethren off-shoot as I understand it.

    • They may have relaxed a few things, but not a great deal.

    • My father would be nearly 80 years of age now, and I understand he has had a couple of strokes recently, and is also totally deaf and not in the best of health.

    • As you can probably tell, I have no contact with them even though we live in the same city of Adelaide, a small city of about one and a quarter million population.

    Our family of 5 children was blown apart by the brethren, their carry on's, and also the fact my father was a prominent leader here in Australia.

    • I was kicked out of the brethren, family home and business by my father at not quite 18 years of age for questioning some of their beliefs, as was my older brother before me, and have never been back since.

    • I have seen my parents, brother's and sister only a very few times in the 30 years since then, the last time being some 13 years ago.

    • My brothers and sister and I all have nothing to do with each other, just for no other reason than we don't know one another. We never had the chance.

    • I think my sister and one or two of my brothers may see my parents occasionally. Still, the ex brethren is riddled with such stories, and a lot worse as you would know.

    I am not a religious person today because of my upbringing, and would be in fact classed as an agnostic.

    • I'm afraid the exclusive brethren's idea of what a christian is and mine are worlds apart.

    • The most important thing in the world to me is my wife and family, and my existence with, and kindness to my fellow man.

    Thank you for your interest,

    Kind regards, Ian P. Johns.


    To: Ian Johns
    Tue, 26 Sep 2000

    Dear Ian,
    I'm sorry to hear of your motor accident and trust all is well now. Thank you for your full reply to my inquiry about your father, Doug Johns, whom we remember well.

    Your account of your father and mother, and of the great damage to your family and family relations is very moving.

    • It is sorrowful indeed that so many families have suffered similarly.

    • Our blessed God, the man Christ Jesus the mediator of God and men, the assembly, and the glorious gospel have all been misrepresented by those who usurped the Spirit's place.

    Most, if not all, persons of your age have grown up knowing nothing else but the legal system.

    • Let me assure you that what has happened since 1959 up to the present in no sense represents what earlier brethren ministered, maintained and enjoyed.

    • You will find evidence of this throughout the pages of 'My Brethren'. Your own father could doubtless confirm that this is so.

    • Some – though sundered by many things which have intruded – seek to maintain all that was good in ministry and practical Christianity that is our heritage.

    I am glad of your commitment to your wife and family, and fellow man.

    • But I would be unfaithful not to emphasize the need of a right personal relationship with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

    • Don't let the horrendous failures and spiritual atrocities amongst those who should have been exponents of the truth rob you and your family of the present and eternal blessing and favour of God.

    Let me also encourage you to attempt – for I realize it might be unsuccessful – to establish a connection with your parents.

    • They are near the end of their time here, as I am, and may well have reflected on the past and come to some judgment of it. In any case it is always right to honour father and mother.

    • I neglected this from 1959-71, and am thankful for the opportunity the Lord gave me to restore good relations with my parents, who had never been connected with brethren.

    • You will not regret having tried, and may be pleasantly surprised. You will surely live to regret it if you do not make the attempt.

    • You might think that because of the way you were mistreated that any move should come from them, and I agree. But don't let that stop you from doing what is right.

    • They are your parents. No doubt they rejoiced at your birth, and loved and cared for you in your youth. I believe and hope you will find that they still do.

    • My parents had not mistreated me, but I had shut them out of my life because I thought it was the right thing to do. How misguided!

    • When I turned my heart back to them they were ever so gracious, and I thank God for the years I had to make up to them.

    Ian, I trust you won't think I have just been preaching at you, for that has not been my intention.

    • We were not kicked out but left on personal exercise in 1971. That, in one sense, has not lessened the continuing pain of the loss of our friends and brethren. It will remain till our departure.

    • But now, as an old man who has proved the love and faithfulness of our Lord Jesus through 55 years of ups and down, I urge you to consider what I have said in love to you.

    • It is not in my heart to alienate you, and I'll be glad to hear from you at any time.

    Your servant, for Jesus' sake, Gordon.

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    Bob Johnson

    To: Bob Johnson
    robert.johnson.02ATsnet.net
    Thomaston, CT, USA
    Tue, 23 Oct 2001

    Dear Bob,
    Thank you for letting me know that you have visited 'My Brethren'. I hope you will have occasion to return.

    Your inquiry and concern – which I share – as to the report of Sir Robert Anderson being a Mason has been posted in the Guest Book.

    • Hopefully it will attract some informed response. Please let me know of any pertinent replies so that details can be posted on MB.

    My comments on the above are in
    Guests: My Answer 3: Sir Robert Anderson

    Yours in our Lord, Gordon.


    From: Bob Johnson
    Tue, 23 Oct 2001

    Dear brother Gordon,
    Thanks for the reply and for posting the inquiry.

    I would suspect that the 'open' brethren have varying positions sad to say. I speak in respect to the looseness I have experienced in the States.

    I heard from one brother from New Jersey who agrees with us regarding it to be out of character of RA to have been a Mason.

    • He told me he thought RA finished his course as a Presbyterian. That is sad if that is true. Only for grace every moment here.

    May the Lord richly bless you!

    Thanks again, Bob Johnson.

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    Dave Johnson

    To: Dave Johnson
    davidpjohnsonATyahoo.com
    Dallas, TX, USA
    Fri, 25 Apr 2003

    Dear Dave,
    Welcome to 'My Brethren'. I hope you will find encouragement from some of the ministry on MB.

    I can well understand your feelings about "the Tunbridge Wells group".

    While you are "a happy member of the Episcopal Church", I trust you are also – as I am blessed to be – a member of the body of Christ.

    • In this connection you might find Geo. Cutting's Doctrine: Fellowship: Are You a Member? And of What? of interest.

    • Many, especially younger persons, who have been brought up in various EB groups still appear to have a strong link – nostalgic at least – and this is understandable.

    • But most seem to overlook or ignore the operations of the Holy Spirit – and its continuing validity – which gave rise to the 'brethren movement', and which most EB groups seems to have forsaken.

    In the Lord, Gordon.

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    Martyn Johnston

    To: Martyn Johnston
    beadATic24.net
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire, England
    Thu, 31 Jan 2002

    Dear Martyn,
    Thanks for visiting 'My Brethren', for your generous comments and for sharing your experience.

    There is no doubt that those now known as 'exclusives' have given up the essence of the gospel, although they may retain the terms.

    • They do not in any sense represent the earlier practices and principles of brethren from 1827-1959, which some still seek to maintain and which is featured on 'My Brethren'.

    You might be interested in
    Ministry: G. R. Cowell - Early 1: The Gospel of God: What it is, Where it is and Where it Leads and

    Ministry: G. R. Cowell - Later 1: The Gospel and the Church where it is well said – in reference to those you know as 'exclusives':

    • "If you separate the gospel from the church, you lose the church vitally and also the best of the gospel; but there are still some elements of the gospel left. But if you separate the church from the gospel, you lose the church – because you cannot have the church vitally without the gospel – and you have given up the gospel too. What is left? Nothing".

    I trust that you will not be offended by a few comments: Matthew 28: 19-20, to which you refer, will be seen on examination not to refer to the church – which did not then exist – but to the apostles.

    • While all may individually have part in the spread and support of the gospel, the church itself, according to Scripture, neither preaches or teaches.

    • This is done by spiritually gifted persons, who do not need or accept "training" or commissioning by the church. Besides the apostles, including Paul, there were others such as Philip the evangelist.

    • Evangelists are among the gifts given sovereignly by ascended Christ and empowered by the Spirit. See Doctrine: The Gifts of Ephesians 4.

    • I mention the above for your consideration in view of your proposed course. This is the teaching of Scriptures learned by early brethren, many of whom came out from the Church of England.

    • Some of those had been clergymen, and their view of this is expressed in Ministry: J. N. Darby 2: The Notion of a Clergyman ....

    In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.

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    Matt Jones

    To: Matt Jones
    cobrabulldog3ATaol.com
    Gadsden, Alabama, 35903, USA
    Fri, 27 Jul 2001

    Dear Matt,
    Thank you for visiting 'My Brethren'. I notice you are from the same city as Joshua Cade, a recent guest, and wonder if you are acquainted.

    Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any brethren in your area which I could commend to you.

    • In any case, joining the brethren would not necessarily result in your becoming closer to the Lord Jesus.

    • Of course, the company of others if they are more spiritual can be a help, but it really depends on your own personal commitment to Him, seeking His presence and being guided by the Blessed Spirit.

    • 'My Brethren' has a wealth of reliable ministry which will point you to Christ and challenge you in your relations with Him.

    • There are several guests who I'm sure would be glad to correspond with you for your mutual encouragement.

    • They, as well as myself, would be interested in knowing something of your background and experience if you are free to share with us.

    I hope you will visit MB again and share with us.

    Yours in the Lord, Gordon.

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    Nelson Joyce

    To: Nelson Joyce
    nelsonjATnelsonjoyce,com.au
    Sydney, Australia
    Thu, 12 Aug 1999

    Dear Nelson,
    I was interested to hear from Andrew Robertson of your recent visit and to learn something of your experiences – and regret there was no opportunity to speak with you.

    You might be interested to visit "My Brethren".

    Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.


    From: Nelson Joyce
    Sun, 19 Sep 1999

    Dear Gordon
    Greetings. Thought you would like this snippet to give a sample of the quality of relationships that the early brethren had with the Lord and with one another.

    Yours in Him, Nelson.


    To: Nelson Joyce
    Mon, 20 Sep 1999

    Dear Nelson,
    Glad to hear from you, Nelson, and many thanks for the "snippet" of JND's First Impression of GVW

    • I am posting it in the "Mailbox" temporarily.

    • When my proposed bio of Mr. Wigram is completed, the snippet will then find an honoured place there.

    • It is indeed a fine model for us to follow in each taking the lead in paying honour to the other.

    • Another example of this can be seen in the final correspondence between JGB and JND in "Biography: J. G. Bellett".

    You will always be welcome at MB. Please drop in occasionally.

    With love in the Lord Jesus, Gordon.

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    Phyllis Hyldahl Bullock Juul

    To: Phyllis Juul
    pjuulATpenn.com
    Warren, PA, USA
    Fri, 24 Aug 2001

    Dear Phyllis
    Welcome to 'My Brethren'. I trust you found some items of interest and will come again. You may find some familiar names in the Guest Book and Mailbox.

    My wife Betty (Reid, Toronto) remembers seeing you at fellowship meetings or special meetings.

    • She also recalls being at fellowship meetings at St. Catharines when she thinks your father was serving.

    I saw some 1974 correspondence your father had with some older brethren here in Toronto (who had left in 1960) in connection with visiting them along with his grandson Tom.

    • Around that time your father sent me a copy of his book 'Another Look at History and Revelation', and we had brief correspondence.

    Although we may have never met personally, Phyllis, we share a common spiritual heritage down here and, with all the saints, a common spiritual destiny up there.

    With love in Christ, Gordon and Betty.


    From: Phyllis Juul
    Sat, 25 Aug 2001

    Dear Betty and Gordon,
    Yes, I certainly do remember Betty and I think I have a picture of her at Hamilton conference, unless, Betty, you have a sister named Jean? I wrote names on the pictures only later and may have put the wrong name?

    I had heard of your site, Gordon, but got all caught up in Dick Wyman's site and only recently thought of visiting yours.

    • I knew Dick's parents quite well and that is probably why. Cleveland and Rochester were the closest meetings to our Bradford small one.

    • I do respect the love and respect for our Lord on your site.

    Yes, I know my Dad corresponded with John Bulloch and one reason he wanted to take my son, Tom with him was that Tom's surname is Bullock (with a k).

    I was married to Ernest Bullock of Plainfield, NJ, and moved there in 1951.

    • My Dad was withdrawn from in about 1948-9 and my Mom and I left with him. I went back though as all my friends were there.

    • Ernie and I had two beautiful babies (ETB III, or Tom, and Marjorie) and had drifted away from the PBs again and then he left me with the two babies.

    After three years, I remarried a non-PB, who has no interest in my PB experiences although he claims to be a Christian.

    • We raised my two children and his three children that he had custody of and have stuck it out for 40 years now.

    Good to hear from you and to remember Betty.

    Love to you both, Phyllis.


    To: Phyllis Juul
    Sat, 25 Aug 2001

    Dear Phyllis,
    Thanks for your reply and for letting us know some of your 'history' – and the kind words as to 'My brethren'. You'll find some of our history on the Personal page.

    • It's always good to share with those who understand each other in a special way. We're sure that despite all that has happened to us all that you, along with us, can see the Lord's hand in mercy and grace in so many ways. It's hard to believe but this coming Tuesday, August 28th, will be our 50th anniversary.

    Betty was pleasantly surprised that you would remember her and her younger sister Jean, and thinks she recalls seeing an entry of yours in Jean's old autograph book. Her oldest sister Mary (widow of Phil Schaumburg, Chicago) is still 'in' and understood to live in Neche.

    Yes, we knew Burt and Gladys Wyman well too, and have stayed with them often at fellowship meetings in the 1960's, and remember Dick as a teenager. We had many happy times with the brethren in Cleveland. We also remember the Meabons and Lowns though we never managed to get to Bradford.

    Thanks again, and we'll be glad to hear from you from time to time.

    With love in our Lord Jesus, Gordon and Betty.

    Your guest entries and messages will show that
    the continuation of My Brethren is important to you.

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