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My Stand: No. 5

• Gordon Rainbow     and † Guest

'Christian' Zionism  Not based on ministry of J. N. Darby
'My Brethren  Comments on MB's layout, design, format etc.
§ Dispensationalism Again  A response to a paper by Max Weremchuk
Anonymity – Another Look  Does Scripture contemplate anonymous ministry?
An Appeal re Fellowship and Reception: by Richard C. Reed
 
 



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'CHRISTIAN'  ZIONISM
Paul Wilkinson writes that he is "currently undertaking PhD
research on J. N. Darby and the Origins of Christian Zionism
at the University of Manchester".

To: Paul Wilkinson
Tue, 22 Jul 2003

Dear Paul,
… I'm surprised that you seem to link "J.N.Darby and the Origins of Christian Zionism".

That the restoration of Israel to the land will be by God's own direct intervention – not political means – is clear from the following:

… In the Lord, Gordon.

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'MY  BRETHREN'
Its Layout, Design and Format
Recently some friendly and well-intentioned – but ill-informed and uncomplimentary – comments have been received. This is an explanation of the rationale behind MB's appearance and an examination of the objections made.
The guest who offered the comments will not be identified. It is not our intention to be personal or to retaliate, but to answer questions that may have arisen in the minds of other guests.       December 2003, GAR.

First let me say that while Jeff and I, as editors, are always interested in the reactions of guests of MB – and welcome notice of any factual or typographical error –

Visiting a web site, as I often do myself, is like being welcomed into a friend's home.

It should also be understood that MB is not in competition with the publishers of printed ministry.

Our guest says, "I really hate all the 'bullets' everywhere in all of your texts. It's distracting and is not in keeping with the original material and makes it seem like you are trying to organize the original ministry in 'outline' form. It also stops the normal 'flow' of thought that was meant to be conveyed in the ministry with unnecessary distractions".

Our guest also says, "it seems that two things are happening.

"First, is that you both assume that the Spirit cannot use the original ministry as given without your help. You assume that one must have a 'good foundation' to be benefitted from the ministry. Let me say that in my own experience and several Brethren I know locally were not born and raised among brethren. I discovered the ministry over 20 years ago and had nobody but the Spirit to help me understand it. The Spirit of God can take the ministry and do with it what and as He chooses".

Our guest continues, "Secondly the bulleting of the text robs the Spirit of His claim over the material and allows you to use it for an 'agenda' that may or may not be in keeping with the Spirit's mind thus acting the Holy Spirit yourselves. My wife noticed that you even go so far as to underline texts that are not underlined or emphasised in the original text. This distincly gives the impression of pushing forward an agenda. Instead of letting the Spirit help the one reading you have decided what is important in the text and should be noticed by the reader. I see it as also going beyond the original intentions of those who put forth this ministry with the exception of Gordon's thoughts which he has a right to do with as he chooses. I think you place too much reliance on your ability to help persons understand divine things instead of leaving these matters with the Spirit of God. I see nothing wrong with putting the ministry out on the internet for persons to find and enjoy. I just object when the ministry is tampered with in such a way as to suit a person's own objectives and agenda. I see these matters as being very simliar to those that arose at Stow Hill when JT's ministry was edited without his knowledge thus making the ministry say something it was never intended to say or serve a purpose it was never meant to".

Our guest may not realize that unless oral ministry was both revised and edited – as customary among brethren – most of it would be confusing and unsuitable to print.

If our guest's reasoning is correct – and I do not think it is – then logically all Bible translators, including JND, would be

We certainly do not want to offend the tastes of our guests,

G.A.R.

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ANONYMTY  –  ANOTHER  LOOK
Does Scripture contemplate anonymous ministry?
The following was written many years ago to
the Editor of 'Open Forum' – a discontinued publication.   GAR

The following comments are not intended, nor should they be construed, as an attack either on the Compilers’ practice of anonymity or of their policy of offering the same anonymity to the contributors to 'Open Forum'.

That being said, I would like to offer some comments in answer to the question, “Is there anything in Scripture to guide us on the subject of anonymity?”

Doubtless, “many books are anonymous”, but these are mainly historical accounts.

How the gospels which “seem actually to have been written anonymously” could have had “their names attached, accurately, no doubt – in the second century”, apart from direct personal knowledge is difficult to understand,

“Luke’s authorship” being “unobtrusive” is quite different from remaining anonymous

As to John, “the rumour spread among the brothers that this disciple would not die”, John 21: 23 – surely indicates that he must have been known.

To conclude that “The above considerations seem to provide ample scriptural precedent for anonymous writing” is premature.

On a “further question”, it is important to recognize that the scriptures were written for others as well as for ourselves.

“But where the subject is doctrinal and not experiential, how is the author’s personality or history relevant to his subject?”

The reference to “Geshem says it”, Nehemiah 6: 6, as a possible ground of “prejudging the ideas presented”, is an unfortunate example.

The foregoing leads me to conclude that there is no biblical authority to support anonymity as a personal policy and that

G.A.R.

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AN  APPEAL  TO  THE  BRETHREN
IN  CONSIDERING  MATTERS  OF
FELLOWSHIP  AND  RECEPTION
Richard C. Reed, With Christ: November 29, 2004
Richard's appeal is addressed to those brethren with whom he was identified
It is presented here as a thoughtful analysis worthy of consideration by all.
The editors of 'My Brethren' do not agree with some minor details, but the 'Appeal' has not been changed, except for editing re punctuation etc.   GAR
See also Doctrine: Fellowship.

A collection of quotations from Mr. Darby's letters concerning matters of reception and fellowship is being circulated.

Although Mr. Darby always held all believers had title to remember the Lord with the brethren, there were in fact some he would not receive.

1. Vol 1: 42 – p. 34 in my edition – 1840: The reference is here to churches who refuse to receive all Christians and in so doing perpetuate division among the Lord's people. Mr. Darby's observations are entirely correct here, though we must recognize that brethren were themselves united at this point. They had not yet been tested.

2. Vol. 1: 451 – p. 370 in my edition – 1864: Reception is based on membership in the body of Christ [not] intelligence in spiritual things. This principle is exactly right.

3. Vol. 1: 13-14 – pp. l0-12 in my edition – 1869: A simple brother is to be received, even if defective in his understanding of system.

4. Vol. 2: 130-31 – pp. 109-10 in my edition – 1870: This letter makes it clear that we do not receive to the Lord's Supper – called the Lord's Table by some. We receive to the assembly.

5. Vol. 2: 420 – p. 349 in my edition – 1875: There is no such a thing as receiving a saint as a visitor and receiving a saint to 'full fellowship'.

6. Vol. 3: 543 – pp. 459-460 in my edition – 1878? Although the date of this letter is unknown, JND makes it clear that time has not changed his mind. Indeed that is good, because time does not alter moral principles.

It is one's understanding that these quotes were originally excerpted from JND's letters and published in a tract printed by what was once an 'Open Brethren' publishing house.

Mr. Darby tenaciously held to the view that all believers be received, and one fully supports that!

We are equally wrong if we consider only the body side of the truth. To do so is to be like the man with the withered hand. We must consider both the house and body sides of the truth!

One remains committed to the principle of receiving all believers in the light of the discipline of the house of God. We receive to the assembly, not to the supper!

JND was a mighty man of God. There is no question but that he was used – as well as others – to help souls get clear of system and see the light of the assembly.

It is sad, but true, that a legal line developed even while JT Sr was alive. That line bore sad fruit later on. Many, many lives were affected and there is no need to recount a sad story.

In light of the ruin do we now reject the truths recovered in the ministries of JND, JBS, FER, CAC, and JT Sr?

Will we be faithful? Let us not turn JND's comments taken out of context against what JND plainly believed.

Did the brethren become too exclusive? That is not an easy question to answer, although the principle of excluding what is not suitable to the Lord is a right one, no matter how legally we have handled it.

It may be that brethren came to receive only from among themselves, and JND does call that arrangement a sect.

If brethren went too far in one direction. do we meet that by going to the other extreme?

A 'simple' believer is not one who desires to break bread with us out of convenience.

A 'simple' believer will not place conditions on the assembly. There will be no reservation to continue to go back and forth between companies of the Lord's people.

It is a matter of dealing with issues the Lord allowed to come upon us, and seeing if there is a righteous way to heal the breaches in light of the Lord's soon coming for all true believers.

The Lord has allowed the questions of reception and autonomy of local meetings to come up once again. We really need to look to the Lord about this.

We need to be on the line of recovering our brethren! Scriptures that present principles of recovery, like Jeremiah 15 – especially verse 19 – Genesis 14: 12-16, and 1 Samuel. 30: 1-20, do not suggest that recovery is achieved by a going back and forth.

It is not a return to 'us' that should be sought. It is the acknowledgement of the truth that we should seek – 2 Timothy 2: 25.

Since breaking bread implies fellowship, we should make sure there is a righteous basis to go on together. We must love all believers, even though we can not go on practically speaking with some.

These are the last days. We all need to seek the Lord out as to these matters.

The foregoing is submitted humbly in the interest of faithfulness to the truth and love for the brethren and the Savior who has bought us all!

Richard C. Reed, 1991

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