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• July 2005 Tim Southwood Maralynn Rochat Phil Hoyle Stuart Painter Bill Long • August 2005 John Locke Larry A. Wolf Paul Allison • September 2005 Terry Risenhoover |
John Arthur Johnston David Southee Dorothy Weeks • October 2005 Phillip Skiles Tom Rooney Basem Nady Azab Ruth Parkinson • November 2005 Katie Starr Rebecca Reddick Gordon Johnson |
George Ziemer Lesley Scott Jerry Sullivan Dan Costian Dino Yoganathan Wolfgang Ruehs James Gilman • December 2005 Elaine Hanley Charles Anderson Leopold Reinecke Samuel McDonald |
Tim Southwood
southwoodATtallcottage.fsnet.co.uk
Nailsea, Bristol, England
Sun, 3 Jul 2005
So you were a Jimmite!!
Left EBs Havering 1970. Now member of Christ Church Clifton and lay Minister in Bristol Diocese. Help at Lawrence Weston which is a spiritually tough area. Married to Mary with two children John & Ruth.We both work in general medical practice in Nailsea.
Tim Southwood
To: Tim Southwood
Thu, 7 Jul 2005
Dear Tim,
Thanks for signing our Guestbook. Yes, I was with the J.T., Jr. Exclusives until 1971.
We'll be glad to post your message, perhaps someone you knew will see it and get in touch with you!
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Maralynn Rochat
mrisrael2003AThotmail.com
Knoxville, TN
Fri, 8 Jul 2005
Hello,
I found your website randomly. I'm not sure if you might know this or know where to direct me. Does John Darby have any connection to a Greek New Ttestament. I haven't heard of this before, so I thought I ask you all since you seem to know quite a bit about the Plymouth Brethren movement.
Thank you very much for your help. Maralynn Rochat.
To: Maralynn Rochat
Thur, 7 Jul 2005
Dear Maralynn,
Yes, Mr. Darby translated the New Testament from original Greek. He also translated the Old Testament along with a few other brothers. The "New Translation" or "Darby Translation", as it is sometimes called, is quite good and I can recommend it highly.
Yours in the Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Phil Hoyle
mapahoyleATxtra.co.nz
Whangarei, New Zealand
Wed, 13 Jul 2005
Hi,
Phil & Margaret Hoyle – we left the Jims in the early 70`s with 3 young children.
By God`s grace we surivied those early years completely cut off from our families, but being surrounded by good christian people who helped us greatly, we now live and serve our Lord with a deep personal love.
Regards, Phil & Margaret Hoyle.
To: Phil Hoyle
Fri, 15 Jul 2005
Dear Phil,
Glad to hear from you. Thanks for writing about you and Margaret and your children. It is especially encouraging that your love for the Lord has grown – as you know, so many were spiritually lamed by the same experince.
Perhaps someone you knew will recognize your name in our Guestbook and contact you again. Would you be free to share your location to our guests to complete our records?
Hope you also will be encouraged by some of the content on our site – please visit again!
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
From: Phil Hoyle
Sat, 16 Jul 2005
Hi,
Thanks for your e-mail. I wasn`t sure if it had gone. This new technolgy is taking a old fellow like me along time to get used to.
If there are any blanks in my entry let me know or change them. I have no problem with our details in public.
We live in Whangarei, New Zaeland our address is 13 Sunnyside St., Onerahi, Whangarei – which is in the top half of the north Island of New Zealand.
Our phone is: 0064 09 436 2264; Fax: 0064 09 43 64 064; Cell phone: 027414 3806.
We have a open home for anyone especially those who love our Lord Jesus Chirst or have being hurt by the Tayorites.
Yours in Him, Phil.
Stewart Painter
stewart.painterATntlworld.com
Yeovil, Somerset, UK
Sat, 16 Jul 2005
Dear Friends,
Monthly tape publication:
'Provision' 1985-2005
Continuous section of recordings of current ministry: Gospel, bible readings, and addresses, etc. Specifically for the blind and elderly.
For those wishing to be included on the mailing list please contact Stewart Painter tel. 01935 411599 or write to: 34 Trent Close, Yeovil, Somerset. BA21 5XQ.
Thanks.
Your brother in Him, Stewart Painter.
Bill Long
belongATihug.co.nz
Waimate, New Zealand
Mon, 25 Jul 2005
Could you tell me where I can find the words of a poem by J.G. Bellett. I know it as "The Last words of J.G.Bellett"?
God bless you and thank you, Bill Long.
To: Bill Long
Tue, 26 Jul 2005
Dear Bill,
Mr. Bellett's poem can now be found in "Poems" published by Kingston Bible Trust, which I am sure is still in print.
I've scanned and attached a copy of it for you with our thanks for bringing this excellent poem to our attention.
We will be posting it shortly under his biography on 'My Brethren'. Thanks again!
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
[Please see this poem in Biography: J.G. Bellett]
John Locke
john-lockeATntlworld.com
Hertfordshire, England
Fri, 12 Aug 2005
I would to know some more about a well known Brethren character that seemed to be very active in the British Brethren Movement in the post-war years, until a decade or so, ago. His name is Dr. John Boyes. I understand that he ran an organisation for brethren believers in the UK. I think that he was a real doctor, not a medical one, from what little I've been able to find out across the net about him.
Can anyone help me please?
John Locke.
To: John Locke
Wed, 17 Aug 2005
Dear John,
Dear John,
Welcome to My Brethren and thank you for your visit.
Unfortunately, the name Boyes is unfamiliar to us. We will be happy to post your request in our Guestbook, perhaps someone will know the name and write to you. Please let us know if we may be of any more assistance and we hope you'll come visit again!
Yours in the Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Larry A. Wolf
LarryAWolfAThotmail.com
Tuscon, AZ
Mon, 15 Aug 2005
I would like to inform you of the home going of Richard Reed who was local at the assembly at Dover, PA and the Dover Bible Fund. He was much loved by all and has been of help to many, myself included. He loved all the saints and had a strong desire to be of help to all. His son Jon will take over the responibilty of the Book room.
I have been local there at Dover for the last 30 years. But for health reasons have moved to Tucson. My wife Sandra and I have been in Tucson without finding any to walk with. I am looking for others of like precious faith. Would you know of any in Tucson or Phoenix or any in Arizona state?
Love In Christ, Larry.
To: Larry Wolf
Wed, 17 Aug 2005
Dear Larry,
Thanks for visiting and writing to us. We had heard the Lord took Richard in November of last year and posted a notice on our website in our "With Christ" section at that time. But we are encouraged to hear again of his brotherly help and Godly influence on others.
We appreciate the news regarding the Dover Bible Fund, that Richard's son will continue the work.
I will be giving your contact information to a dear brother, John Vedder, who lives in Sierra Vista, some ways north of you. Perhaps he will know of others nearby to you and your wife. Please keep us informed as to your contact.
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
From: John Vedder
Sierra Vista, AZ
Fri, 26 Aug 2005
Dear Gordon,
Although I have not written you for quite some time, I certainly do visit your site frequently and am glad that you persevere with it. Doubtless it continues to be of interest and help to many of its visitors, so keep up the good work.
Thank you very much for forwarding the message from a brother now living in Tucson. I have contacted him by phone and in person, and we shall see how things progress as time goes on. I'll try to let you know when something more definite ensues.
Yours in Christ Jesus our Lord, John.
Paul Allison
nosillaATxtra.co.nz
Geraldine, New Zealand
Mon, 15 Aug 2005
I have an old photograph of Watchman Nee with – I think – Mr. Charles Barlow taken probably outside Park St., London in the 1930's. If this is of interest in connection with your article on W.N. please let me know.
I left the EB in 1967 and have suufered much in the loss of a wife and five children and now 21 grandchildren that I have never met.
Your brother in Christ, Paul Allison.
To: Paul Allison
Wed, 17 Aug 2005
Dear Paul,
That's very kind of you to offer, we would be very interested to add the photograph you mention.
I certainly feel for your losses and know of so many who have similar sufferings. It's difficult for me to even imagine the sorrows of that time in history, which cause such deep feelings even today. I suppose as much as we long after those not available to us, the Lord Jesus must long for them so much more.
I hope you will find some encouragement from our website and correspondence. Please visit again!
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Terry Risenhoover
risenhoover1313ATatt.net
Wewoka, Oklahoma
Thu, 8 Sep 2005
My wife and I welcome contact with any Brethren in Oklahoma in particular and anywhere in general.
To: Terry Risenhoover
Fri, 9 Sep 2005
Dear Terry,
Thanks for writing. Please feel welcome to explore our site. I will post your message and perhaps someone will contact you locally.
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
John Arthur Johnston
rockinghoarseATozemail.com.au
Sale, Victoria, Australia
Fri, 23 Sep 2005
Dear Sirs,
I am very interested in becoming a member of the assemblies. I met with a member many years ago who explained a little about the assemblies to me. I have come to the time in my life that I feel that is the time to try and become a member. Could you please help me?
With thanks, John.
To: John Arthur Johnston
Tue, 27 Sep 2005
Dear John,
Thanks for writing. I will do my best to locate someone to handle your request.
In the meantime, please feel free to visit the site and if you have any questions, I'll do my best to help. I hope this finds you well!
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
David Southee
olivegreenATclear.net.nz
Masterson, Wellington, New Zealand
Mon, 26 sep 2005
I would like to be put in touch with the Assembly in my area.
To: David Southee
Tue, 27 Sep 2005
Dear David,
Thanks for writing. I will forward your message two brothers in NZ -- not knowing the "lay of the land" there I'm afraid I can't be much more help.
We would enjoy knowing a little more about you if you would care to write.
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Dorothy Weeks
Were there earlier than 1879 List of Gatherings produced? Thanks so much for sharing that one.
Do Loizeaux Bros. still exist? Who got their archives?
To: Dorothy Weeks
Dear Dorothy,
As to lists of gatherings proir to 1879, we are not sure, but it is doubtful. Perhaps one of our readers will respond with that information.
Loizeaux Brothers is now out of business. That is all the information we have and we do not know who has purchased the archives.
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Phillip Skiles
Greetings, dear ones in the name of our precious Lord Jesus. We are going for the Lord here at The Sawyer Bible Chapel. I enjoyed your site. Grace and Peace to you.
To: Phillip Skiles
Dear Phillip,
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Daniel Soukoreff
[Please see the Mailbox]
Tom Rooney
Hi,
The reason I am contacting you is that I live next to a lady who belongs to the Bretheren and within weeks of moving next door to her we found her noisy, selfish, vindictive and a downright liar.
After numerous attempts to get along with her she now just puts up a mental barrier and is so hate filled I find it hard to even look at her these days. Whilst I understand this might be something in her personal make-up I have never met a person who, when faced with a choice of peace or hardship, she chooses hardship.
I would welcome any information as to the type of background she may have been exposed to as I fail to understand why she is like this.
Perhaps if I can understand, then maybe I can take a different approach.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Tom.
To: Tom Rooney
Dear Tom,
I'm afraid I can't be too much help as I do not know this person or her history. I do not know why anyone would act badly toward a neighbor.
Unfortunately, because persons claim to be something, or may even have long experience in something supposed to be positive, does not necessarily mean they are in it in reality.
I might not try to press her for a response or try to bring her out of her shell, but you can still be neighborly toward her and I think that will have to do unless she has a change of heart.
You are always welcome to visit our site and please write again if I may help in any other way.
Yours in the Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Basem Nady Azab
I am a visitor in USA. I need to know the nearest meeting of the saints in Dallas, Texas and Omaha, Nebraska.
I am breaking bread in Egypt.
Ruth Parkinson
I want to know where I can get a copy of J N Darby's translation of the bible?
To: Ruth Parkinson
Dear Ruth,
For more information I would suggest an email to Malcolm Withell, manager of the depot, at mwithellATcix.compulink.co.uk.
Thanks for visiting our site, please come again anytime!
Yours in the Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Katie Starr
Dear Editor,
Some 4 years ago, probably more, I was engaged to a man whose family had found its origin within the confines of the brethren in our local community. He was one of six children, the third in line, with two older brothers, two younger sisters and one younger brother.
Whilst they were still 'inside', the eldest brother had an argument with his father one day. Being upset, the son decided to go and find consolation from his best friend. It just so happened that his friend's family was at the time "shut up" which is the term they used for being excommunicated – it was normally a temporary thing and the elders – although I don't think they were actually named "elders" as such – would usually visit a shut up family after an appropriate amount of time and, since families generally had no other place to turn, they would 'repent' – I use the term loosely – and join the fellowship once more.
The incident of the eldest boy talking to his mate was reported and as a result, the whole family, parents and six children, were excommunicated. This was the last straw for the parents. They felt unhappy, disillusioned, hurt, betrayed. The elders came to visit the family after a time and first approached the older children. I was told that this was a normal practice – the children of a given family would return to the fellowship, and so the parents would follow, not wanting to be seperated from their children. At this point, the parents were still not wanting to return, however knowing how they usually did return after a while, the eldest son – the one who caused the excommunication in the first place – returned to the fold. The other two older children decided to stick with their parents.
The parents made the decision to not return to the brethren – they were still very hurt and angry. So the family, minus the eldest child, made a life in the 'real world'. It was about 5 years after this that I met my former fiance, T–. He was unable to make decisions, he was torn between wanting to do all the things forbidden to him and wanting to serve the Lord, he had so much baggage that he carried around too.
Needless to say, the story did not have a happy ending. A year after our engagement, he started to get cold feet. He was uncertain about the future and he began saying things that I felt were odd for him to say. He started complaining about how our pastor went to Bible college to learn to preach, when the brethren men would just stand up and preach as they felt the Spirit led them. We eventually broke our relationship off, and he went to the northern part of Q– to work on a remote cattle station for 6 months. When he returned, things took a turn for the worst.
Initially, he returned home with lots of ideas and dreams of things he wanted to do, but as time went by, he became more and more entrenched in the drudgery of everyday life, as he had been before he left. Also, just before he left for Q–, his eldest brother started visiting the family. This was obviously seen as quite strange, however the parents were so eager to see him and their grandchildren that they didn't ask too many questions. Upon T–'s return, he also began visiting with his eldest brother. He would take his youngest sister to play with her neice and nephew and T– would chat to his brother. T–, being quite unhappy and vulnerable, was convinced to return to the brethren. One day he simply packed up his things and announced, "I'm going back to the brethren" then left.
The family was totally dumbstruck. T– had always maintained that he would never, under any circumstances return to what he saw as a cult.
Within 12 months, he was engaged, and had bought a house. Another year down the track, he now has a son. He called his parents and told them not to come to the hospital to see their grandson. In addition, the eldest brother told them that he had given them enough time, and promptly severed contact with the family once again.
I am part of the Church, meaning the Bride of Christ as spoken of in Paul's letters and spoken by Christ himself in the gospels. I am convinced that Jesus' death and resurrection is enough to wash me clean of my sin, my guilt, and my shame. I have a loving relationship with my God. And yet, I see the brethren who seem in many ways to preach the gospel, and yet to shun it all at once! I have been so deeply saddened by seeing such a terrible breakdown in a family that I love!
How is it that the closed brethren think that they are actually helping people to be godly by walking the 'path of separation' as it is called? Yes, we are aliens in this world, but we still have to live in it and take part! How can a church possibly uphold the message of grace and yet be so focussed on the 'works' or, perhaps more aptly put, mistakes, of a person? It makes me sad and it makes me angry.
I feel pity for T–, that being in the brethren robbed him of basic decision making skills, that he feels he needs to be a part of this almost pharisaical movement. I pray wholeheartedly that one day, the legal system may be abolished for these people, that the truth may be once again preached faithfully. I pray that T– and his wife and child may be able to start life as born again through Christ rather than one based on fear and guilt.
Thank you for what you do here. I'm glad there is some support for those who leave. But there is very little known about the 'cultist' version of the brethren movement – all of my personal knowledge comes from T– and his family. Where would I be able to find out more information? How can I help these people?
Yours in Christ, Katie.
To: Katie Starr
Dear Katie,
I think it may be helpful to try to understand the strong appeal of religious systems – because we are all subject to causing public dishonour to the Lord – even in systems that may not be as obvious as what you have described.
Religious systems also have the appeal of a family environment and may offer a false feeling of stability. Wanting to be with others who share your history cannot be discounted.
We must leave your friend and his situation in the Lord's hands.
If you have some time to explore our site, I think you will be able to see the beautiful beginnings of a work of God in people that was unique and blessed but, perhaps inevitably, some were susceptible to the same ruin which they saw they ought to separate from. So, you see, in this way, it is not unique or a surprise that some people would go wrong, but rather common. Again, the appeal of being 'more right' is very strong!
Remember, we are brethren, Katie, do not allow the term to be abused in your mind. It is a precious term we ought to guard in our hearts, and it applies universally to lovers of the Lord Jesus.
You may find some other help here: http://exeb.tripod.com/index.html.
I certainly appreciate your sadness and your anger – and don't discount those feelings, but try to stay positive. We have made the attempt here to do so and hope that you can be an example, too. We hope you will find the clarity you seek – and if you seek the Lord Himself, you will most certainly find it.
Please write again. We would be glad to hear from you.
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
[More Correspondence with Katie Starr in the Mailbox]
Rebecca Reddick
I have a complete set of hardback books titled 'Miscellaneous Writings of C.H.M., Vols I-VI.' These books were part of an inheritance left to me by my parents. They were published by Loizeaux Brothers, Bible Truth Depot. However, I am not sure what religious belief/group this man – C. H. Mackintosh – is truly affiliated with. All I have been able to find out is that they call themselves 'the Brethren' and 'Church of God'. Apparently he was born in Ireland. The only 'Brethren' group I am vaguely familiar with is the Plymouth Brethren here in the United States. Can you tell me anymore specific information about this man and the group he was with?
Thank you.
To: Rebecca Reddick
Dear Rebecca,
For clarification, both terms you mentioned – "the Brethren" and "Church of God" – as used by C. H. Mackintosh, would have been meant in their widest sense, and understood to encompass all believers in the Lord Jesus, not to identify those with whom he was in practical fellowship, exclusive of other Christians. In other words, these terms are not used denominationally such as one might find among Protestant fellowships.
If you'd like to investigate him further we have posted a biography on our site here:
And we also have some of his ministry posted here:
I think you would find his ministry reliable and enjoyable and still very distinct even after all these years. Please don't hesitate to write again if I may be of further help. I'll do my best to answer any questions you may have.
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Gordon Johnson
I happened to find your web page this evening. It has been my privilege to serve the Lord 'full-time' since 1964 in Australia. I have been associated with 'Open Brethren' for over 50 years.
I am interested to notice NZ names in your guest book. I spent 6 months ministering there this year being my 11th visit. For 26 years I have been conducting Israel Slide Presentations and while in NZ this year, I learned of Exclusive Brethren Schools. And out of their 15 Schools I conducted Israel Slide Presentations in 8 of them and on return to Queensland I have been to two of the six here. I intend checking your web site again as there is so much in it.
May God's blessing rest on your ministry.
To: Gordon Johnson
Dear Gordon,
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
George Ziemer [By Air Mail
Dear Bro. Rainbow,
Here is a book I wrote, hope you will like it.
God Bless. Bro. Ziemer.
To: George Ziemer
Dear George,
We will be glad to hear from you at any time and would be interested to learn something of your background.
In our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Lesley Scott
I am trying to trace my family tree and have been told that my Great Grandmothers family were members of the Plymouth Brethren. As they lived in Dungiven, Co. Londonderry I am assuming that there was maybe a meeting house/church there or in a nearby town or village. The family name was Crooks. I would be grateful if you could direct me to where I could trace information about this branch of my family.
Thank you, Lesley Scott.
To: Lesley Scott
Dear Lesley,
Yours in the Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Dear Lesley,
I have two contacts to suggest:
1. As you probably know from 'My Brethren' website and other sources, the movement which became externally labelled as Plymouth Brethren was once very numerous in Ireland, and to some extent still is, though sadly broken up into a great many divisions. Thousands of Christians left their denominational affiliations, but as 'brethren' have no formal organization or earthly headquarters there is no 'membership' roll or equivalent recordkeeping. This makes a quest such as yours more difficult than my own, for example, where I have been able to consult records of the Church of
Ireland country parishes where both my grandfathers, who later came amongst 'brethren' in Belfast, were baptised. Nevertheless, information may be gleaned from various sources, one of which might be my sister-in-law Rina Brien whose Greeves forebears kept private records of which she is possessed. My copy to her e-mail will apprise her of your enquiry.
2. My friend David White, although over 80, has excellent recall from his wide knowledge of such matters both from his own experience and by information handed down from his father and grandfather, both of whom I remember from my childhood visits to Derry.
No doubt you are aware of the Public Records Office for Northern Ireland, Balmoral Avenue, Belfast as well as numerous other resources for Irish genealogical research. At Inst. (1946-50) I had a classmate Walter Crooks – could there be a connection? Do let me know how you get on.
Very best wishes, Noel S. Brien.
Jerry R. Sullivan
I grew up in the Church of God, Anderson, Indiana, where I went to their Anderson University – BA,1965 – and Anderson School Of Theology – 1965-68 with no MDIV. After the USN, I lived in Los Angeles and for 8 years – 1969-1978 – was part of the 'Local Church'. It was started in China by Watchman Nee and was enlarged here in the USA by Witness Lee.
Having studied a lot of church history, I did not realize how important the 'Plymouth Brethren' were until I was under the Teachings of Watchman Nee and Witness Lee.
Thanks for this web site and "GOD BLESS", J. R. S.
P.S. I am also studying the works of T. Austin Sparks.
To: Jerry Sullivan
Dear Jerry,
History: The China Episode: 1932-1935
Please visit and write again sometime!
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Dan Costian
I tried to get a free hard copy of Darby's Bible – Old and New Testament – writing to JimATemmausroad.co.uk and found out this user is unknown.
Whom should I contact for this? Dan Costian.
To: Dan Costian
Dear Dan,
Copies of the JND version may be had from Dover Bible Fund. They may have free copies available for those in financial difficulty.
In the meantime, a free online version is available from Bible Gateway.
Thanks for visiting our site. Please visit again and let me know if I may be of further assistance.
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Dino Yoganathan
Give me answer for account of the Christmas festival and why is it important to Christians – give me a short answer – please I need now please. [sic]
To: Dino Yoganathan
Dear Dino,
If you would like to read more about our views you may here: Doctrine: Religious Holidays.
Hope this is some help to you. Please write again if I may answer any further questions.
Yours Sincerely, Gordon.
Wolfgang Ruehs
Perhaps can you help me. I search for Raven brethren assemblies – not Jims – in Germany. Can you give me a contact person?
Thank you in advance.
Editors Note: We attempted to make contact with Wolfgang, but his e-mail address was rejected. If you know how we can reach Wolfgang, please contact us.
James Gilman
I had a school friend in Barnet, Herts, England, by name Sylvia Chapman, who would have been born circa 1930 and who, as I understand it, married into the Brethren at some time after 1950. Is there any means by which I could ascertain her present married name and address or, alternatively, send her a message via yourselves?
Thank you, James A Gilman.
To: James Gilman
Dear James,
Yours in the Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Elaine Hanley
I have long been wondering about reception and fellowship among born again believers.
Thanks for your consideration. Elaine.
Note: See the Mailbox for further correspondence with Elaine.
Charles "Andy" Anderson
Hi brother!
As to the unique ground of oneness being locality, the Brethren saw it as a simple principle of visible oneness. How could you live in the same community and share the same services, yet refuse to meet together with other Christians in that community? That's what was the issue at Ramsgate. But Bro. Nee saw it as a burning truth which the Lord wanted us to see as crucial and central to His testimony. But I do not recall any statement by Lee or Nee admitting indebtedness to the Brethren for a one city, one church doctrine. Rather, Lee claims it was Nee's reaction to seeing several assemblies in a city – on his visit to the Brethren in 1933 – that caused him to study the matter. He gave a series of messages after concluding his study, in 1934, published as The Meeting Life.
To: Andy Anderson
Dear Andy,
We have G.W. Ware's account of the trouble at Ramsgate here: http://www.mybrethren.org/history/framlcon.htm. You wrote: "How could you live in the same community and share the same services, yet refuse to meet together with other Christians in that community?" I wasn't quite sure how you meant that related to the trouble at Ramsgate.
Please write and visit us again soon!
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
From: Andy Anderson
Hi!
An Anglican clergyman who was a friend of Dr. E. Cronin – one of the first Brethren – decided to quit his ministry and meet with the Brethren in Ryde. Some of his congregation decided to go with him. But the assembly there was in a very low state, so low that the brother decided to break bread with those others in his home instead. Dr. Cronin visited several times, meeting with this second, new assembly in Ryde. He was remonstrated with at his own assembly in Kennington for so doing, on the ground that there can only be one testimony in a city for the sake of visible oneness. Later they excommunicated him.
The assembly at Ramsgate felt that Kennington had been dilatory in their discipline, and they cut off that assembly. That decision caused a unilversal division. But the actual source of it was the understanding of "one church in a city".
Andy.
Leopold Reineke
Very glad to find your website. Was typing out Mr. Darby's translation in comparison to KJV, American Standard, Young's literal translations this morning and had been very unhappy with a contemporary version of Mr. Darby's Bible – without footnotes and brackets. Thought, "Is Mr. Darby's translation generally available?" And then looked on the internet and found your site. I am trying to get the address of the Stow Hill Bible and Tract Depot. I would be grateful for help. I want to purchase Mr. Darby's translation for some young men who are starting their life with Bible Study.
Regards, Leo Reinecke.
To: Leo Reinecke
Dear Leo,
Kingston Bible Trust
If you need any assistance, Malcolm Withell, manager for the trust, is always happy to help. His e-mail is mwithellATcix.co.uk. You can also access many different versions of the Bible here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/
Thanks for your visit and nice note!
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
Samuel McDonald
A Christian, I and some family members am involved with a Brethren community in our town through business. I have been reading your webpage with interest, as I am interested to find out what the biblical motivation is for some of the rules that I and my family find strange. I do not know if you have answers for these questions, or if this group of Brethren is in the "legal" group, but I guess they might be, as many of their choices seem legalistic to me and my family.
Would you be able to shed some light on such things as, women wearing only skirts and dresses, women having to be housewives as soon as they are married, why brethren aren't allowed to pursue post-secondary education, not use computers, etc.?
I also am perplexed about why Brethren cannot eat and drink with those not in their fellowship: How would Brethren view the Bible passage where the Pharisees are indignant at Jesus' eating with sinners and tax collectors, and His subsequent rebuke of those Pharisees? Do brethren believe that Christians who are not a part of the brethren movement are numbered among those saved?
I thank you for your time.
To: Sauel McDonald
Dear Samuel,
There is also a disastrous misapplication of 2 Timothy 2: 19-22. While we are indeed called to be separate from the world and its practices, likewise to avoid official fellowship with brethren who divide and despise the truth
As you point out, our great example is the Lord. He was as apart from evil as possible, separated from it completely in Himself, but at the same time more accessible than anyone.
Yours in our Lord Jesus, Gordon.
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Bennett, Colorado
Thu, 29 Sep 2005
Wed, 10 Oct 2005
Unfortunatrely, we did not get your E-mail address from the form-mail post. Hopefully, you will be able to check MB to read this reply.
skilesAThavilandtelco.com
Sawyer, Kansas
Sun, Oct 9, 2005
Wed, 26 Oct 2005
Thanks for visiting and writing. We're so glad you enjoyed our site. Please visit again soon, we update and add many items on a monthly basis.
westernnameplatesATbigfoot.com
Delta, BC
Tue, 25 Oct 2005
tomrooneyATfreeserve.co.uk
England
Thu, 27 Oct 2005
I'm not one of the Bretheren but believe in people living in peace and doing what they want to do.
Thu, 27 Oct 2005
Thank you for writing and sharing your concerns. It is very feeling of you to want to reach out to your neighbor. If your kindness is not appreciated by her now,
basem_nadyAThotmail.com
Egypt
Fri, 28 Oct 2005
ruth_parkinsonATyahoo.com
Wisbech, Cambs, England
Sun, 30 Oct 2005
Mon, 31 Oct 2005
The most quality copies of the 'New Translation' are available from Kingston Bible Trust, Wembley Gardens, Lancing, West Sussex, BN15 9LX. They have several different sizes to choose from and the binding is excellent.
He will be able to give you more information and a telephone number you can call to place your order.
katie.starrATgmail.com
Sydney, NSW, Australia
Fri, 4 Nov 2005
I write to you in search of clarity about the Brethren. I have been personally touched by the tragedy of broken families that has resulted from the legal system within the closed brethren.
Thu, 10 Nov 2005
Thank you for writing and sharing your story. It is very moving and we appreciate your heartfelt reason for wanting to know more and to find some clarity about the brethren with whom you have had contact.
rebeccareddickATearthlink.net
Arlington, TX
Fri, 4 Nov 2005
Fri, 4 Nov 2005
Yes, Mr. Mackintosh was an early servant among so-called 'Plymouth brethren', though he might have objected a little to being classified as such.
Biography: C. H. Mackintosh
Ministry: C. H. Mackintosh
gordonmjATbigpond.com
Pialba, Queensland, Australia
Wed, 9 Nov 2005
Thu, 10 Nov 2005
Thanks for your visit. You are certainly welcome, let us know if we can help your 'exploration' of the site at any time.
zman4753ATyahoo.com
Dahlonega, Georgia, USA, 30533
Thu, 10 Nov 2005
I have been enjoying your web site, so much food. It is very interesting.
Thu, 24 Nov 2005
Thanks for visiting MB and your kind words – also for your booklet on 'Gifts' which I will read with interest.
lesleyATmelmaid.plus.com
Bangor, Co. Down, N. Ireland
Sat, 12 Nov 2005
Wed, 16 Nov 2005
I have been doing some research on your request and have not as of yet found anything. I will send your note along to two other brothers that may be able to help. Thanks for visiting our website, we hope you'll return again!
I do not know whether this will help, but it is a pleasure to try, especially for a fellow Northern Irelander, and even more so if you are one of those referred to in Galations 6: 10 as belonging to "the household of faith" – i.e. those who truly have a personal relationship by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, whatever their Christian fellowship affiliations may be.
jrsullivanATcox.net
Norman, OK
Wed, 16 Nov 2005
Sun, 27 Nov 2005
Glad for your visit and to hear of your interest in history. We have attempted to give a well-rounded view of the history of so-called Plymouth brethren, particularly those of an 'exclusive' background – and a few with whom Watchman Nee had contact. We even have a section specifically relating to the events with W. Nee's visit to England that you might find interesting:
costianATyahoo.com
Richardson, TX
Sat, 19 Nov 2005
Sun, 19 Nov 2005
It appears Jim's new email is KingswayscATaol.com and website is Things Concerning Himself. But I believe he is not offering free bibles, but free issues of his magazine.
d.yoganathanATntlworld.com
London, England
Wed, 23 Nov 2005
Wed, 23 Nov 2005
The short answer is that Christmas ought not be important to Christians at all. Christmas is not a Christian celebration, even though it has a long history with them. It is not given in our Scriptures to celebrate nor do we find any evidence it was held by the apostles or our early brethren. It was borrowed from heathenism and made 'institututional' by the Roman church. It is an unhappy instrument of bondage to many of our brethren.
RuehsAThome.de
Achstetten, Germany
Thu, 24 Nov 2005
jamesATagilman.freeserve.co.uk
Duram, England
Tue, 29 Nov 2005
Thu, 1 Dec 2005
Thanks for writing. I'm afraid the best I can do is post your message in hopes that one of our visitors may contact you if Sylvia Chapman is known to any, as she is unknown to us. Sorry we cannot be of much more help as among Christians of our background there are no official rolls or membership. Sadly since 1950 there have also been many divisions. But if she is known to any of our visitors, I'm confident you'll receive an e-mail. And we'd appreciate hearing if you were to re-establish contact.
bobedhanATlocalnet.com
Blooming Glen PA, USA
Tue, 20 Dec 2005
aange32553ATaol.com
Fairfax, VA
Tue, 6 Dec 2005
I was with the LC movement of Nee/Lee from '72-79; then with the Excusives for 8 years; then with Stephen Kaung's meeting outside Wash., DC from '90 to '95; finally with the Open Brethren from '95-'03. I was personally told by an older brother who was imprisoned with Nee and made an inquiry at the prison about his health. A guard replied flippantly, "Oh, he died", as if it were an unimportant detail.
Wed, 21 2005
It was very nice of you to write and share some of your background with us and the personal account of W. Nee.
Wed, 28 Dec 2005
Sorry to be so late getting back to you. regarding your question about the source of the Ramsgate division, the second large schism among the closed Brethren, it went this way:
leopold.reineckeATvirgin.net
Newcastle, England
Sat, 24 Dec 2005
Wed, 28 Dec 2005
Kingston Bible Trust succeeded Stow Hill which was disbanded in 1971. The address we have for KBT is as follows:
Wembley Gardens,
Lancing, West Sussex, BN15 9LX
yoakeAThotmail.com
Southwestern Ontario
Wed, 21 Dec 2005
Mon, 23 Jan 2006
The supposed basis of some of these arbitrary rules regarding television, computers, faxes, etc. is a misunderstanding and exaggeration of Ephesians 2: 2. The assumption being that anything travelling through the air is subject to the influence of Satan.
I don't know if they consider other Christians to be saved, it is quite possible they do not. You may find some other help here: http://exeb.tripod.com/index.html
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