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GOD'S  CHIEF  INTEREST
ON  EARTH
Haggai 1: 1-8, 12-end; 2: 1-5, 10-19; 1 Corinthians 3: 11
Reading at Airdrie, September 29, 1962
God's Chief Interest on Earth, Notes of Meetings, 3: 1-22

G. R. Cowell, 1898-1963

G.R.C. I have in mind our work as builders, our business being in whatever manner it falls to us to do it, to build God’s house.

If the house is to be built, the foundation must first of all be laid.

If we go on independent lines we are treating the local meeting as our house and not as God’s house,

Things had all gone wrong at Corinth on almost every point. They were wrong. God had not been considered. They were temple of God but they were not acting accordingly.

J.R.C. While the thought of individuality has been greatly re-emphasised in recent happenings, are you suggesting that although we may move accordingly

G.R.C. That is right. It is of the utmost importance that in, and as a result of, the present crisis

A.G.J. Has the apostle in mind the danger of this kind of thing when speaking to the elders in Acts 20?

G.R.C. He puts the responsibility on them to shepherd the assembly of God and that would mean that

A.G.J. And he brings them an account of his own toil, his own example.

G.R.C. Yes, showing them his hands. How he toiled to that end! His was a life of toil and unremitting suffering, and we have got to be prepared for that.

Ques. So in 1 Corinthians 1: 2 the apostle says, “with all that in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ”. Would that preserve us from isolationism?

G.R.C. It would. It is, “all that in every place …” And even the Old Testament ends with that,

J.R.C. Would that correspond with verse 8, “I will take pleasure in it and I will be glorified”? Is that the objective we should have before us?

G.R.C. That is the objective. And how is God glorified?

J.McC. The wood is brought from above; the word is “Go up”.

G.R.C. That is right. “Go up to the mountain”. That brings us to the great point of this book, and that is, laying the foundation.

J.McC. Do you feel we may tend to be too much occupied with what is around and what we have left?

G.R.C. Yes. It is an important matter, this, because God calls our attention to it. “Consider. … from this day …”

Ques. You were linking with this the mountain and the wood, were you?

G.R.C. Yes. In Matthew 5 the Lord went up into the mountain, and His disciples came to Him, and He opened His mouth and taught them.

Ques. Does that suggest what is stable?

G.R.C. When you refer to what is stable, you mean the foundation? There is no stable foundation other than Jesus Christ. Well now, did Jesus Christ ever compromise?

J.R.C. Do the features of grace and truth enter into this matter of laying the foundation?

G.R.C. We must not, because you cannot separate grace and truth.

A.P.C.L. Yes, I am enjoying what you are saying because it is so important. When the people came up from the captivity it says they set the altar on its base. This is the first thing that is recorded, is it not?

G.R.C. And that is the great objective which we must keep before us.

A.P.C.L. Is it not the place where the blood of the sacrifices was emptied, the bottom of the altar? But Ezra 3: 3 is the only place where the actual word “base” is used.

G.R.C. Yes, the reference is to the bottom of the altar, in Exodus and Leviticus, so that Ezra 3: 3 seems to show that

Ques. Would getting the gain of the passover as set out in Luke’s gospel help us to eat the Lord’s supper morally and truly?

G.R.C. It would; that is most essential, to be in the gain of the passover; to be sincere and true, in other words.

Well now, in the present crisis, brethren who have come ‘out’ have greatly enjoyed the Lord’s supper. I believe the Lord has been there, and we do not want to miss Him.

A.G.J. Do you mean that we cannot compromise on principles, on issues of the truth, as otherwise we are not laying the foundation and we are not building? Is that what you have in mind?

G.R.C. Yes. If we do not lay the foundation we cannot start on the superstructure, can we? Then we want to get the living stones built in.

Ques. You mean that evangelical activity will take colour from that?

G.R.C. Well, it should do. If we are right at the foundations we shall be right in our activities.

P.S. I have been thinking of the expression, “Consider your ways”.

G.R.C. Yes. Do you not think we should do it now, at this minute?

P.S. Yes, I am sure.

J.R.C. And are you encouraging us in order that we might go forward in the defining of situations in each locality, so that the truth of the assembly might be recognised in a unified way?

G.R.C. Yes. We want to be poor in spirit, “an afflicted and poor people”, and we want to keep like that, poor in spirit, in a spirit of mourning, and meek;

Ques. Are you thinking of the continual burnt-offering the morning and evening lamb?

G.R.C. Quite so. We need to maintain these things all through the day.

H.B. Is that the thought in His invitation in Matthew 11, “Come unto me”?

G.R.C. Yes. What we have to learn is that those invitations to come to the Lord in the gospels do not refer simply to an initial coming when we first come to the Saviour.

H.C. So that it is characteristic to keep on coming to Him, even as in Matthew 5 there is what is characteristic of the sons of God?

G.R.C. I think so, and, you see, if we come to Jesus now we can only come to Him as a glorified Man in the presence of God. That is where we come to Him.

H.C. Is the plummet to be in the hand of the Lord?

G.R.C. Yes, that is when we get on to the structure. We have got the foundation, then when you come to the structure the plummet is there to ensure that nothing but Jesus Christ is put on the foundation; it is applied at every point.

H.C. There is always a tendency to deviate or compromise, especially at the present time, in view of the pressures that are experienced.

G.R.C. Yes, that is always the danger.

R.R.H.B. The structure is to correspond with the foundation which is laid, which is Jesus Christ – that order of manhood. The boards of the tabernacle were of acacia wood, overlaid with gold.

G.R.C. The foundation of the tabernacle system, in a way, was acacia wood, all the way through,

Rem. And if the work of construction is to go forward more and more living stones are needed, are they not? I was impressed by the reference you made to the gospel preaching.

G.R.C. That is just so. So he spoke every day with those he met in the market place. There was living water flowing in Athens.

A.P.C.L. One citizen, at one point, was accused of preaching about “a certain Jesus”. That would be the laying of the true foundation, would it?

G.R.C. Yes, it would indeed. Go on, Mr. L.

A.P.C.L. It is all so important, is it not? But then when you speak about Jesus Christ, people immediately say, ‘Well, I know Mr. So-and-so, and he is a very nice person, just like Jesus, and why can I not break bread with him?’

G.R.C. So in Haggai God says, “The word that I covenanted with you, when ye came out of Egypt, and my Spirit, remain among you”.

H.B. Is that “lay hands quickly on no man”?

G.R.C. Yes, when it is a question of fellowship.

Ques. “Shall two walk together except they be agreed?”

G.R.C. Quite so

Rem. Paul discerned, in Acts 16, that Lydia was one he could identify himself with. She was judged to be faithful to the Lord.

G.R.C. That is so. She was good material, and so was the jailor – excellent material; and Paul speaks in his Philippian epistle of the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ.

J.R.C. I was wondering if you would say a word in regard to this matter of righteousness.

G.R.C. Oh, yes! Righteousness involves keeping God’s commandments.

H.C. There is no suggestion of there being more than one house. In Haggai 1: 8 God tells them to “build the house”.

G.R.C. Quite so, that is just it. The house of God is one. And the body is one, and therefore

A.P.C.L. I would like you to say some more about independent gatherings especially, because it seems to me that the brethren are weary. They have suffered a lot,

G.R.C. Well, I hope we shall strengthen one another this afternoon. I need it, because I know that feeling well enough, that tired and weary feeling, that longing for peace.

H.C. In chapter 2 verse 9 Jehovah of hosts says, “and in this place will I give peace”.

G.R.C. That is very good. “In this place will I give peace”. Well, that is the kind of peace we want.

H.C. So that Jerusalem will then correspond with its name.

G.R.C. Yes. You mean Jerusalem means “the place of peace”. And if God gives peace that is what we want, the peace He gives.

J.McC. What about the man that stops at home, and does not go anywhere but says he is waiting on the Lord to show him what to do, or something like that?

G.R.C. Well, that is a somewhat similar sort of thing taken to a greater extreme.

J.McC. And we are denying the Lord of His rights. His own personal rights.

G.R.C. Yes.

B.G.H. And are we not rather mistaking the scripture that has been quoted,

G.R.C. That is very important. So that the first element in fellowship is walking with God, then we can think about walking with one another.

A.G.J. So that at the end of chapter 2 verse 4 Jehovah says, “for I am with you”.

G.R.C. Well, if God is with us who can be against us, who can disturb us?

E.R.S. Is not the timing of the prophetic word in Haggai 1: 15 and 2: 1, significant in view of Leviticus 23: 26-36?

G.R.C. Yes, very good. Haggai’s name means “feast of Jehovah” according to the note. As though the maintenance of the feast is important to strengthen us.

Ques. You referred to the Lord’s commandments. Is there a danger of confusing what we are “in Christ” which refers to all Christians, and the Lordship of Christ which involves certain rights over us?

G.R.C. Yes. And then you see the enemy’s attack is on anything corporate and collective.

B.G.H. And we do not want to bring those man-made things into the preaching of the gospel, do we?

G.R.C. No, we do not. We have left it, we have left the camp, as I think a brother said the other day.

E.R.S. You would be confronting the convert with a testimony to division and forcing him to choose between two men, instead of leaving Christ supreme in his vision.

G.R.C. How could I take someone to hear a preacher if I have got to tell him afterwards, ‘Whatever you do, do not follow the preacher. You have got the blessing through him, but do not go with him’.

P.H. It says, “The Lord knows those that are His”. He does not forsake them, and “Let every one who names the name of the Lord withdraw from iniquity”. It is a question of what is here connected with the name of the Lord.

G.R.C. That is right.

P.H. That is, we go forth to Him without the camp.

G.R.C. That is just it. The name of the Lord is a great matter, and the name of God. We should be gathered to the Lord’s name.

G.W. Do the living stones come to light for the building up of God’s house in persons moving to Christ as Lord, that is, going forth to Him without the camp?

G.R.C. They do. Yes, very good. That is how living stones are made, I believe, in going forth to Him.

Ques. Would 1 Timothy suggest that the true pursuit of piety would lead to our finding our place and knowing how to conduct ourselves in God’s house, which is the assembly of the living God?

G.R.C. Yes. Well, that is just it. So that the manna, nourishing people on the manna, has in view securing pious men for Himself and His house, as you say, not stopping short and adorning this world.

A.G.J. So if I find that a divine principle is denied in another gathering, is there not an obligation on me to face the matter, that is if I value the corporate truth?

G.R.C. If it is another gathering at a distance, any individual can write to them about it, and lay it on their conscience,

A.G.J. I was thinking of the way it is to be worked out with them, with priestly feeling, and no legality.

G.R.C. Well that is what we need help on, how to face it in a right spirit and according to the law of God.

A.P.C.L. Other localities’ matters cannot be adjudicated in meetings at a distance, can they? Unless there has been a definite issue at the place where they are, where they lie.

G.R.C. Well that is what I understand.

J.McC. And you feel that we may be obligated to write to them, particularly if they are at a distance, if we have a particular matter?

G.R.C. Yes, I think we have to keep it to an individual writing, generally. If we are writing to another meeting about problems, put it on an individual basis first, and then if we cannot get satisfaction refer it to the nearest meeting, I would judge, to get their judgment on it.

A.P.C.L. Yes. I would think that. The tendency in confused times like these may be to take some kind of action that is not fully in keeping with what you were saying about striving lawfully, and keeping to the rules.

G.R.C. That is what I feel, that in standing for what we know is right we may ourselves depart from the principles of the house, the principles we are trying to maintain,

B.G.H. We need to act constitutionally, do we not?

G.R.C. Yes.

A.T. So that if a complaint is made against a locality on the part of any other locality or anyone in it, we should not accept it without first inquiring of the locality against whom the charge has been brought.

G.R.C. Well, we should first enquire whether the rumour is true; that would be better than to talk about it – but withal not forgetting the responsibility of the nearest meeting according to Deuteronomy 21.

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CHRIST  AS  FOUNDATION,
STRUCTURE  AND  HEADSTONE
Zechariah 3: 1-7, 8-9; 4: 1-10; 6: 12-13
Malachi 1: 11; 2: 1-2, 4-7
Address at Airdrie, September 29, 1962
God's Chief Interest on Earth, Notes of Meetings, 3: 23-38


I wish to speak, dear brethren, of the great objective in view in the work of the Lord which Paul calls “your toil” – “your toil is not in vain in the Lord”.

But God would deliver us from all that, in order that, with pure hearts, we might seek His pleasure,

I think we can recognize amongst that remnant in Malachi, features of God’s house. God says,

Well now, there are two related aspects of this matter – one is the structure, the building, and the other is connected with husbandry, and these two lines run on together.

So you can see that the husbandry thought must come first because it is the One who as the Branch grew up out of His place who becomes the Builder.

Well, that is the objective we are to have before us, and if we keep it before us we shall be stimulated

But now, we began with referring to Joshua, and one verse which is outstanding in chapter 3 is Zechariah’s own contribution, as we might say, to the meeting, when he says,

Now if we are to reach that, we must be established in the truth of the gospel, and that was what was needed at this stage

So that what we find, as we confess our sins and the sins of our people, as Nehemiah did and Daniel did, is that

And so you see, as grounded in the truth of the gospel, now you have got persons who are ready for priestly service and to have a pure turban set upon their heads.

Well, it is following that that God brings in the first thought of the Branch or the Sprout – precious thought that I have tried to develop –

Well now, in the next chapter it speaks of the lampstand all of gold, but you need the house in order to house the lampstand, you see. These thoughts run together.

We hear a lot about getting rid of the old system, but we need to judge and refuse the old man – our old man. Your old man, and my old man, how much scope does it have?

I pass on now just for a moment to Malachi chapter 2 – we have already referred to the verse in chapter 1. It says,

But here in Malachi chapter 2, it says of Levi,

Now, at the priest’s mouth they seek the law; I do not want to say much more as to it but it is not said to be the law of Moses, of course, it is the law of God;

Well, let us go on with the work, dear brethren, having in view the priesthood functioning Godward,

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